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Three Speed Parts: What Are These Called and Where Can I Buy Them?

Old 05-22-23, 07:18 PM
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Three Speed Parts: What Are These Called and Where Can I Buy Them?

I'm working on several three-speed projects at the moment, three Raleigh Sports and one Hercules. I find myself missing some small parts from these 50-year-old bikes and I don't know what to call them or where to buy them. My most significant need is for the small plastic insert that is used in the shifting cable. The housing runs from the shifter to this stop and is bare wire afterwards. I don't know what to call the plastic ferrule (the middle piece in this photo) or, more importantly, where to get one. It fits into the cable stop on the left. I also need to find one or two of the clips that hold the rear brake cable housing to the top tube; it's on the right in the photo.

I would be thankful if someone can tell me what to call these thingamabobs and where I can acquire them. Cheers!


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The white bit and clip is called a fulcrum clip by sturmey archer .
There are different sizes for different tube diams
eg
SA P/N HSJ513

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Fulcrum sleeve. Find a metal one if you can; the plastic ones eventually disintegrate.
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As stated above, the plastic insert is called a Fulcrum Sleeve (Sturmey's only part w/o a part number?). Here's the whole family of thingamabobs:

https://www.sturmey-archer.com/en/pr...ke-and-fulcrum

Google brings up multiple sources.

EDIT: It's Sturmey p/n HSJ515

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Thanks!

I really appreciate knowing that I'm looking for a fulcrum sleeve, it's much easier than asking for "that plastic thing that goes along the shifting cable of a three-speed bike".
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I can help you out with some of this. Pm'd
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BF at it's finest.
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Someone used to sell metal ones; I'll see if he still has some.
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Here's a metal one on eBay that'll set you back about $12 shipped: https://www.ebay.com/itm/304704306674
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The way the fulcrum is slotted and removable from the clip allows you to install the old gear cables that came fixed length, with lead ends on both ends. Nowadays people are more likely to us the kind where you cut the cable and housing to length, and the adjuster that threads onto the indicator chain has a cable anchor (hole through a bolt). If using that kind, then you don't need a Sturmey fulcrum, you can use any housing stop, whether clamp-on or braze-on, slotted or unslotted.

Of course you may want to keep your gruppo "tutto Sturmey" anyway, nothing wrong with that. That's what I usually do even though I like to cut my housing to length, I still use a real S-A fulcrum clipped to the toptube, and a real S-A steel pulley (or 2) near the seat cluster to direct the cable(s) down the seatstay(s). (2 cables in the case of my S-5 hub.)




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John Sharratt, the STO of the Lake Pepin 3-Speed Tour, says he has plenty of the metal fulcrum sleeves and pulleys. He had a machine shop make them a few years ago. Email him for more info: https://3speedtour.com/questions%3F
(The parts link on his website doesn't seem to be active).

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Originally Posted by gna
John Sharratt, the STO of the Lake Pepin 3-Speed Tour, says he has plenty of the metal fulcrum sleeves and pulleys. He had a machine shop make them a few years ago. Email him for more info: https://3speedtour.com/questions%3F
(The parts link on his website doesn't seem to be active).
IMO, Jon's fulcrum clip sleeves are superior to Sturmey-Archer's long out of production steel fulcrum clip sleeves in that Jon's are machined from stainless steel, while Sturmey-Archer's were plain steel and eventually rust.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
IMO, Jon's fulcrum clip sleeves are superior to Sturmey-Archer's long out of production steel fulcrum clip sleeves in that Jon's are machined from stainless steel, while Sturmey-Archer's were plain steel and eventually rust.
Are they stainless? The ones I bought from him didn't look stainless.

I took them to the machine shop at work, and the guys made a fulcrum sleeve and pully out of some scrap stainless for me. I had them on a Triumph I gave to my brother.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
IMO, Jon's fulcrum clip sleeves are superior to Sturmey-Archer's long out of production steel fulcrum clip sleeves in that Jon's are machined from stainless steel, while Sturmey-Archer's were plain steel and eventually rust.
To be fair, the post war clips have that famous chrome to die for. Sometimes with Patent numbers

I didn't clean these.

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