How much is that Merz in the window….
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 1,230
Bikes: several Eddy Merz (ride like Eddy, braze like Jim!)
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 677 Post(s)
Liked 926 Times
in
360 Posts
How much is that Merz in the window….
Don’t know if any of you have made deals with the significant others, or even a promise to yourself.
my deal is: if I sell 3, I’m allowed to buy 1.
Found this pink Merz for sale down here. Kooky placement for the rear brake and all.
my question is: does a Tandem count as a single or two?
I argue 2 since two seat posts, two cranks, etc….
can I get a ruling?

my deal is: if I sell 3, I’m allowed to buy 1.
Found this pink Merz for sale down here. Kooky placement for the rear brake and all.
my question is: does a Tandem count as a single or two?
I argue 2 since two seat posts, two cranks, etc….
can I get a ruling?


Likes For Robvolz:
#2
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 1,230
Bikes: several Eddy Merz (ride like Eddy, braze like Jim!)
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 677 Post(s)
Liked 926 Times
in
360 Posts
Speaking of Kooky… what is that brakeset?
__________________
"Leave the gun. Take the Colnagos."
"Leave the gun. Take the Colnagos."
#4
Full Member
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: California
Posts: 962
Bikes: '87 Serotta Colorado,'96 Moots VaMoots, Bertoni MAX, Eddy Merckx Grand Prix Team USA
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 155 Post(s)
Liked 287 Times
in
130 Posts
WOW, that Merz is amazing.
I'm in the "a tandem is worth 2" camp.
It takes up the space of a small car
Good luck.
I'm in the "a tandem is worth 2" camp.
It takes up the space of a small car
Good luck.
Likes For velomateo:
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NW Burbs, Chicago
Posts: 11,881
Mentioned: 193 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2851 Post(s)
Liked 3,081 Times
in
1,221 Posts
Rules? That's gotta be the dumbest thing I heard about C&V.
And that Shimano sticker has to go.
And that Shimano sticker has to go.
Likes For iab:
#7
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Big Sur California
Posts: 123
Bikes: 1946 Holdsworth Cyclone, 1969 Cinelli SC, 1972 Raleigh Pro, 1973 Merz road bike, 1974 Alex Singer Sportif, 1974 Merz track bike, 1975 Teledyne Titan, 1976 Ritchey road bike, 1977 DiNucci built Merz track bike, 1977 (?) Exxon Graftek, many more!
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 82 Post(s)
Liked 850 Times
in
98 Posts
Likes For Portlandjim:
#8
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,651
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 50 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2137 Post(s)
Liked 2,531 Times
in
1,636 Posts
Dang and it looks my size. Perrty!
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
#9
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Big Sur California
Posts: 123
Bikes: 1946 Holdsworth Cyclone, 1969 Cinelli SC, 1972 Raleigh Pro, 1973 Merz road bike, 1974 Alex Singer Sportif, 1974 Merz track bike, 1975 Teledyne Titan, 1976 Ritchey road bike, 1977 DiNucci built Merz track bike, 1977 (?) Exxon Graftek, many more!
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 82 Post(s)
Liked 850 Times
in
98 Posts

This pink AX bike wasn't the one I made for Shimano. It was for Kim Bushong, a Triathlete who got 11th place in the 1981 Ironman. This bike was for the 1982 race, where he only got 22rd. I gave him the bike, he never even said thanks. Many years later he tried to sell it back to me! What a jerk. How did this bike end up back in Portland? I found the build sheet for the bike. Jim Merz
Last edited by Portlandjim; 05-29-23 at 08:09 AM.
Likes For Portlandjim:
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,226
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1035 Post(s)
Liked 1,509 Times
in
851 Posts
What a jerk, dang man that's low.
Hey Jim, at what point was it decided that the OP bike would receive the chainstay brake? I didn't see a spec on the layout.
Hey Jim, at what point was it decided that the OP bike would receive the chainstay brake? I didn't see a spec on the layout.
Likes For Mr. 66:
#11
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Big Sur California
Posts: 123
Bikes: 1946 Holdsworth Cyclone, 1969 Cinelli SC, 1972 Raleigh Pro, 1973 Merz road bike, 1974 Alex Singer Sportif, 1974 Merz track bike, 1975 Teledyne Titan, 1976 Ritchey road bike, 1977 DiNucci built Merz track bike, 1977 (?) Exxon Graftek, many more!
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 82 Post(s)
Liked 850 Times
in
98 Posts
I normally would not need details like the brake position on the build sheet, for bikes like this it was up to me. Jim
#12
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Big Sur California
Posts: 123
Bikes: 1946 Holdsworth Cyclone, 1969 Cinelli SC, 1972 Raleigh Pro, 1973 Merz road bike, 1974 Alex Singer Sportif, 1974 Merz track bike, 1975 Teledyne Titan, 1976 Ritchey road bike, 1977 DiNucci built Merz track bike, 1977 (?) Exxon Graftek, many more!
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 82 Post(s)
Liked 850 Times
in
98 Posts
The pink Merz with blue bar tape is a different bike than the OP. No lugs! The blue tape bike was made for Shimano's display at the bike show. Jim
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Port Angeles, WA
Posts: 8,001
Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.
Mentioned: 193 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1617 Post(s)
Liked 617 Times
in
352 Posts
Tandem=2Xbike. That's just basic math.
Of course a Merz is worth 3 of your average high-end bikes, but I'm not telling your wife that
Of course a Merz is worth 3 of your average high-end bikes, but I'm not telling your wife that

__________________
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
Likes For Lascauxcaveman:
#14
Fuji Fan

This pink AX bike wasn't the one I made for Shimano. It was for Kim Bushong, a Triathlete who got 11th place in the 1981 Ironman. This bike was for the 1982 race, where he only got 22rd. I gave him the bike, he never even said thanks. Many years later he tried to sell it back to me! What a jerk. How did this bike end up back in Portland? I found the build sheet for the bike. Jim Merz
I saw what I think was one of your track bikes at the Chicago Winter Bike Swap maybe 2-3 years ago. I'm far from an expert on track bikes, but it was amazing how little tire clearance there was. The bike was definitely a work of art and likely a great performer. I hope the buyer took it back out for some rides.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 882
Bikes: 1968 Raleigh Super Course. 1972 Raleigh Professional, 1975 Raleigh International, 1978 Raleigh Professional, 1985 Raleigh Prestige, 1972 Schwinn Paramount, 1980 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8, 1960 Carlton Franco Suisse Peugeot PX10, 1972 Motobecane Le Champ
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 304 Post(s)
Liked 624 Times
in
321 Posts
Beautiful Merz it is! I would accept the argument of a tandem as two but that is irrelevant. Everyone who read your post already knows your SO will not accept it. I’ll give you credit for a nice try though.
#16
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 1,230
Bikes: several Eddy Merz (ride like Eddy, braze like Jim!)
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 677 Post(s)
Liked 926 Times
in
360 Posts
Hey all, I’m not currently in the state of Oregon.
the bike in question is in a non-oregon bike shop.
just a few more “tandem = 2 bike votes and it’s mine.
Jim…i have seen Colnagos with the rear brake down there. I would think it would get dirtier faster. Plus more difficult to inspect/adjust
Is there an engineering advantage to having it on the chain stay bridge?
also, I promise I’ll never try to sell it to you.
Robert
the bike in question is in a non-oregon bike shop.
just a few more “tandem = 2 bike votes and it’s mine.
Jim…i have seen Colnagos with the rear brake down there. I would think it would get dirtier faster. Plus more difficult to inspect/adjust
Is there an engineering advantage to having it on the chain stay bridge?
also, I promise I’ll never try to sell it to you.
Robert
__________________
"Leave the gun. Take the Colnagos."
"Leave the gun. Take the Colnagos."
#17
Crawlin' up, flyin' down
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Democratic Peoples' Republic of Berkeley
Posts: 5,207
Bikes: 1967 Paramount; 1982-ish Ron Cooper; 1978 Eisentraut "A"; two mid-1960s Cinelli Speciale Corsas; and others in various stages of non-rideability.
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 806 Post(s)
Liked 1,768 Times
in
768 Posts
Get the Merz, then work it out with the SO. Sometimes it's easier to obtain forgiveness than permission, and you will never see another bike like it.
As a bonus, you have the provenance direct from the builder's mouth here on C&V. When was the last time Ernesto or Ugo chimed in to tell us about one of their bikes? Okay, bulgie and Dave Kirk have treated us to some great posts, and Bruce Gordon once confirmed his serial number system, but you get the idea.
As a bonus, you have the provenance direct from the builder's mouth here on C&V. When was the last time Ernesto or Ugo chimed in to tell us about one of their bikes? Okay, bulgie and Dave Kirk have treated us to some great posts, and Bruce Gordon once confirmed his serial number system, but you get the idea.
__________________
"I'm in shape -- round is a shape." Andy Rooney
"I'm in shape -- round is a shape." Andy Rooney
Likes For bikingshearer:
#18
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,651
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 50 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2137 Post(s)
Liked 2,531 Times
in
1,636 Posts
It’s a really nice frame...it needs no justification!
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
#19
Veteran, Pacifist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 12,902
Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?
Mentioned: 279 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3663 Post(s)
Liked 4,117 Times
in
1,958 Posts

Tandem is a bike.
Single is 1/2 bike.
Makes N+1 2X as nice (for most of us).

Likes For Wildwood:
#20
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,039
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Mentioned: 255 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4121 Post(s)
Liked 5,379 Times
in
3,129 Posts
#21
Full Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Arizona
Posts: 441
Bikes: Many!
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 186 Post(s)
Liked 202 Times
in
121 Posts
ThatShimano sticker stays. The bike is so untouched I would be scared to take the original dust layer off of it.
This is an amazing bicycle. If I knew the location it wouldn't be in a bike shop anymore, it would be in my bike stand.
Go out and get this immediately (sell an organ if you need).
BTW, a tandem is two bikes! It needs two riders!
This is an amazing bicycle. If I knew the location it wouldn't be in a bike shop anymore, it would be in my bike stand.

Go out and get this immediately (sell an organ if you need).
BTW, a tandem is two bikes! It needs two riders!
Likes For SoccerBallXan:
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 13,446
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4012 Post(s)
Liked 2,770 Times
in
1,673 Posts
Buying: Tandem is one bike
Selling: Tandem is two bikes
Isn't that the rule that we all know? I think it might be engraved in stone somewhere.
Selling: Tandem is two bikes
Isn't that the rule that we all know? I think it might be engraved in stone somewhere.
__________________
Bikes: 1996 Eddy Merckx Titanium EX, 1989/90 Colnago Super(issimo?) Piu(?),1990 Concorde Aquila(hit by car while riding), others in build queue "when I get the time"
Bikes: 1996 Eddy Merckx Titanium EX, 1989/90 Colnago Super(issimo?) Piu(?),
Likes For himespau:
#23
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,039
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Mentioned: 255 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4121 Post(s)
Liked 5,379 Times
in
3,129 Posts
Hey all, I’m not currently in the state of Oregon.
the bike in question is in a non-oregon bike shop.
just a few more “tandem = 2 bike votes and it’s mine.
Jim…i have seen Colnagos with the rear brake down there. I would think it would get dirtier faster. Plus more difficult to inspect/adjust
Is there an engineering advantage to having it on the chain stay bridge?
also, I promise I’ll never try to sell it to you.
Robert
the bike in question is in a non-oregon bike shop.
just a few more “tandem = 2 bike votes and it’s mine.
Jim…i have seen Colnagos with the rear brake down there. I would think it would get dirtier faster. Plus more difficult to inspect/adjust
Is there an engineering advantage to having it on the chain stay bridge?
also, I promise I’ll never try to sell it to you.
Robert

#24
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,039
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Mentioned: 255 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4121 Post(s)
Liked 5,379 Times
in
3,129 Posts
#25
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,039
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Mentioned: 255 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4121 Post(s)
Liked 5,379 Times
in
3,129 Posts