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The Horror: Junk Build, High-End-Hatchet job, Frankenbike Challenge Extravaganza

Old 11-20-23, 06:44 PM
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Today was a good day in the MH's shop. After a two week debacle involving an "Old Nago" and sending it off to other parts of the world, I sent the last of the parts to Andy in NY this morning. Free at last to work on the Ochsner and finish it as a horror build. It went into the stand and had a mix of Sugino cups from the "Old Nago" that had a bit of damage and a new 5-P spindle to get a BB in the frame. Adding the VP triple I found a good Q-line and I am now ready to add the shifting products from Huret on the stem, and finding a compatible front derailleur. Smiles, Dave # 3

Not very pretty but a good crank that should be fine.

The nds arm had the perfect q-line and the BB could not re-use the lock ring from Nago damage. A Campy was substituted.

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I found the right bolts to attach the cable routes for the shift mechanisms and was able to add them to the Ochsner. I thought today would be finishing up day but was delayed by having to spend two and a half hours picking up another frame that was re-coated by PKI. Perhaps it should have been part of the horror build but it is the wrong variety of special. Smiles, MH

One of the right colors, but the wrong builder.
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The Crapamount/Scrapamount/Scaramount is finished!

My goal was to get it done this year - I'm 3 weeks ahead, folks. Yes, I'm patting myself on the back with this one!






The main things to finish were the cables, brake adjustments, and a seat clamp. Luckily, I had an el cheapo cable set lying around, and a cable I got out of the box o' crap. Thanks, Mad Honk





I substituted zip ties for twine, to give it more of a natural, organic feel, juxtaposed against the hard, merciless gray of the duct tape. We have to be mindful about these things.






I'm not sure what the gear inches turned out to be on the transmission. Needless to say, it is 'easy' to ride. We're not going for speed, more for beauty, with this build.

I did decide to ride it. We just had a fresh snow last night, but seeing how this is Colorado, the snow is already melting and most of the streets were clear, so we had an open path. If things got squirrely, I could ditch the bike and roll into the soft, powdery snow. Best of both worlds.






Amazingly, it rides okay, despite a chorus of mechanical noises. I was hearing a big of a grinding sound. No worries, just the rock-hard ancient rear tire acting as a buzzsaw against the inside of the chain stay. The snappy-creaking of the chain died down a bit more, but was still subtlety there, almost as if to remind me 'be thoughtful, be introspective'. I was. Hitting the brakes was like listening to the mating call of dueling tortured gerbils, and brought me back to the happy moments of testing out the Le Grande when I first got it. It was a complete win. My hands were frozen, but I had a huge smile on my face.



What does Q-factor mean again?


The biggest losers here, of course, are all the people that thumb their noses at all this useless, BSO-level garbage and never get to experience the full, vibrant, and tactile experience that riding a bike that crosses over into such dubious territory can undoubtedly provide. Just gotta tell it like it is. Super nice bikes are so nice they are boring. Bikes like this live on the edge. You yell at them to high heavens when trying to work on them, but they'll yell back when riding. They are an active participant in the riding experience.

I'm going to leave it like this for a while, and ride it like this for a while. Yes, the DS dropout is still cracked, but its just all part of the story. Eventually I'll fix it, but I'm still working on the approach. I'm liking the idea of brazing the crack shut, then just painting over the jacked up chrome on that side and calling it 'Tripod' the 3-legged dog.

For those of you out these still dreaming of horrid, terrible things - please keep going. You have 3 weeks. Let's finish strong!

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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
The Crapamount/Scrapamount/Scaramount is finished!

My goal was to get it done this year - I'm 3 weeks ahead, folks. Yes, I'm patting myself on the back with this one!


This photo reminds me of a majestic caribou in the snow.

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Originally Posted by Korina
This photo reminds me of a majestic caribou in the snow.


'Majestic'. I like it.
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The majestic Crapamount has a nice ring to it.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
The majestic Crapamount has a nice ring to it.
I agree - the bikes new name!
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A few updates

Made some progress thanks to Dave #3 and his KoolStop Konnection.

Colnago’s little sleeve protrusion behind the brake bridge necessitated drilling out a curved spacer to fit around it. Modolo Speedo’s seemed appropriate.

Rear wheel of choice (Mavic Ma40 hitched to a rare Sampson Stratics hub) fits snuggly into the newly re-spaced rear drops (from 123 to around 127.5). Pretty rare 8 speed Regina Knee-breaker freewheel will provide the gearing unless it kills me.

Friko bars (West Germany), on a Puch SR stem hold the Czechoslovakian Favorit levers will get some interesting bar tape. Since it will be temporary (Modolo levers will move in), Not using the Newbaums.


Odd little freewheel. Regina Extra America 8 speed. Rare Sampson Ti hub.

Workaround for the Colnago protrusion.

Thanks to Mad Honk for the KooLStop Continentals. The calipers had original shoes with sinterized pads.

West Germany, Japan, Czechoslovakia, US, Italy, Great Britain, France, Taiwan represented in this one picture.

Powder coated right on the bossed. Needs to be prepared to fit a surprise entry.
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I'm thinking you have spent too much time in the swimwear aisle! But it is progress! hopeful for a few hours on the Ochsner this week. Smiles, MH
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Originally Posted by Mad Honk
I'm thinking you have spent too much time in the swimwear aisle! But it is progress! hopeful for a few hours on the Ochsner this week. Smiles, MH
Lowe's doesn't carry swimwear...
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
Lowe's doesn't carry swimwear...
Be creative...

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Project-Sou...ure/5001768769
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I'm thinking you have spent too much time in the swimwear aisle!
You know, I was thinking I had never heard someone say Speedos seemed appropriate before.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
You know, I was thinking I had never heard someone say Speedos seemed appropriate before.
Haha!
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Wait a minute, I just finished wasting my time making leather grips by hand (partially based on your inspiration) and now your are telling me I had this Elegant option all along?
Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
The Crapamount/Scrapamount/Scaramount is finished!
Edit: you might want to share that saddle treatment in this thread- DIY re-upholster saddle?

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Originally Posted by SoCaled
Wait a minute, I just finished wasting my time making leather grips by hand (partially based on your inspiration) and now your are telling me I had this Elegant option all along?

Our tastes get refined as time and experience help to teach us better ways.
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Update for the Bowlnago

Deadline is fat approaching...faster than I am likely to average riding it...

The Bowlnago’s first SunTour bit. I am attempting to use this beautiful Cyclone RD with the 8 speed Regina Freewheel. It looks like it should swing far enough.

however, the limiting factor might be this interesting XB3 friction shifter that has me befuddled. The rubber washer should go on the inside, but one: doesn’t fit and two, when I cleaned out the hex fitting it didn’t hold.

flipped it to the outside and it feels like it will. We shall see if it has enough pulling power for the short time it will be the brains of the operation.



Cyclone RD, Sampson hub, Regina fW, and shimano skewer!

Removing powder coat layer that made it difficult to install the shifters.

All the way from Estonia, comes this cute and mostly ill-functioning set of shifters. Note I had to put the plastic washer thing on the outside to get it to move normally.

Very odd hex shape hole for the washer. Filed it round to fit on the inside, but still doesn’t like to move.
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Good to see that you use the right tool for the right job.
This thread needs more hammers anyway
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Originally Posted by Millstone
Good to see that you use the right tool for the right job.
This thread needs more hammers anyway
Haha! It is definitely “Hammer Time”. Actually it was the nearest tool that was white to show the hexagonal inside of the plastic washer...

There are definitely some hammer worthy moments though. Mostly on my head. But that’s reserved for silver.
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I would have used a band/clamp around the downtube just above the bosses, just to add to the overall effect.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
Deadline is fat approaching...faster than I am likely to average riding it...

The Bowlnago’s first SunTour bit. I am attempting to use this beautiful Cyclone RD with the 8 speed Regina Freewheel. It looks like it should swing far enough.

however, the limiting factor might be this interesting XB3 friction shifter that has me befuddled. The rubber washer should go on the inside, but one: doesn’t fit and two, when I cleaned out the hex fitting it didn’t hold.

flipped it to the outside and it feels like it will. We shall see if it has enough pulling power for the short time it will be the brains of the operation.



Cyclone RD, Sampson hub, Regina fW, and shimano skewer!

Removing powder coat layer that made it difficult to install the shifters.

All the way from Estonia, comes this cute and mostly ill-functioning set of shifters. Note I had to put the plastic washer thing on the outside to get it to move normally.

Very odd hex shape hole for the washer. Filed it round to fit on the inside, but still doesn’t like to move.

Those shift levers are wild. They have this exotic, yet garbagy kitschiness. Sort of reminds me of some other components I'm well versed in. Speaking of which! Do you have any USA-made stuff for the bike? If not, I have PLENTY of fun things I can send you, US-made, from that 'Manufacturer-which-must-not-be-named'.



Left out in the weather for an authentic ‘relic’d’ appearance
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
Those shift levers are wild. They have this exotic, yet garbagy kitschiness. Sort of reminds me of some other components I'm well versed in. Speaking of which! Do you have any USA-made stuff for the bike? If not, I have PLENTY of fun things I can send you, US-made, from that 'Manufacturer-which-must-not-be-named'.



Left out in the weather for an authentic ‘relic’d’ appearance
Have the US covered via the Sampson hubs, Kool Stop pads and possibly the bar tape.

So I have Italy, Czechoslovakia, USSR, West Germany, France, Great Britain, US, Japan, China, Taiwan, Switzerland, Spain. I might have Singapore or Malaysia with the rear Skewer...

Couldn’t get the Belgian wheels to cooperate, and no Netherlands components I could think of. No Canada, Australia.

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OK - so taking this down to the wire here.

I have not ridden this, as I desire to continue living. I am leaving any special cringe/painting awards up to jdawg.

Here's what I can claim... All four colors - orange, black, green & purple. 12 points

Thirteen separate countries. 39 points

Sixty separate companies. 120 points

I have it all jotted down, and can transcribe it all if required.

So 171 points + ???




There were a couple unrealized embellishments that I was not able to get to - largely because of the late decision to get the purple twill tape for the extension bar. There is no white-yarn spider web on the extension, and no bust of either Frankenstein (one of my neighbors' Halloween decorations) or alternately, of Al Franken perched upon it. I'll blame Andy for messing with my motivation.

Time to break it down and prepare this, a U-08, and about five other bikes for spring sale or service.

Many thanks to jdawg for the great idea, and for the fun and friendly competition that this engendered.

p.s. if anyone can definitively identify this frame model, I would like to know what it is. It certainly isn't high-end, but it also is not a U-08. The BB is lugless, and the Aztecs have not built any pyramids on the head tube - which has a decal, rather than a metal plate on it.
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^^^^ A matching pair of panniers? (SMH.....)

The ill-fitting fenders are definitely worth a few points.
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^^^^ A matching pair of panniers? (SMH.....)

The ill-fitting fenders are definitely worth a few points.
Completely agree!
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I'm so glad this thread was resurrected. Last chance of the year, boys!

Still waiting to see Mad Honk 's and jdawginsc 's final form. I'd throw in pastorbobnlnh as well but I'm pretty sure his Cannondale crumbled into dust.

Let's finish strong!
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