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Help me to identify the bike: Bogner WB4 (?)

Old 09-15-23, 01:49 AM
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Help me to identify the bike: Bogner WB4 (?)

Hello everyone,

Just recently a friend bought a classic e-stay frame. It is said on the ad that the bike is either Mongoose or a Bogner, but the seller did not know its origin.
I was given the serial number on the BB tube. It is written "LY 9008" on it. Could you help me identifying this frame?


LY 9008

The frame he bought looked like vvv

From the ad (already repainted)

I searched for Bogner WB4, and it looked really similar to this bike. The link: Bogner WB4
Really look forward for some clues to solve the mystery!
Many thanks in advance!!
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Bogner bikes is a brandname by ski fashion/design brand Bogner of Germany --> https://www.bogner.com/

Pretty interesting figure, Willy Bogner. former olympic ski-racer, ski stuntman and stunt-coordinator in several James Bond-movies, sports movie creator ("Fire and Ice" series), entrepreneur.

WB = Willy Bogner. The lower the number, the better the bike - that WB4 was the lowest entry model but still Tange Prestige.
Bikes were made by different suppliers, lower range steel bikes in Taiwan, mid- to top range in Italy and at some point there was an early CFK frame made by "Graphite Technology" in USA. Allegedly, that company worked with Trek pre-OCLV and some of the early employees went on to become Kestrel.

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Originally Posted by martl
Bogner bikes is a brandname by ski fashion/design brand Bogner of Germany --> https://www.bogner.com/

Pretty interesting figure, Willy Bogner. former olympic ski-racer, ski stuntman and stunt-coordinator in several James Bond-movies, sports movie creator ("Fire and Ice" series), entrepreneur.

WB = Willy Bogner. The lower the number, the better the bike - that WB4 was the lowest entry model but still Tange Prestige.
Bikes were made by different suppliers, lower range steel bikes in Taiwan, mid- to top range in Italy and at some point there was an early CFK frame made by "Graphite Technology" in USA. Allegedly, that company worked with Trek pre-OCLV and some of the early employees went on to become Kestrel.
Hi there!

Thank you for your response. Now I know a little bit more about this bike. I have searched again through the internet and yes it is a Tange Prestige tubes!
But still it is so heavy

Would you think this is a Bogner as well? I seem to have a hard time validating the serial numbers on the BB tube.
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I'm a fan of E-stay bikes. Looking forward to seeing the actual bike or build.

I have a thread.
Show Your Elevated Chainstay Bikes
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Originally Posted by jessejoshua
Hi there!

Thank you for your response. Now I know a little bit more about this bike. I have searched again through the internet and yes it is a Tange Prestige tubes!
But still it is so heavy

Would you think this is a Bogner as well? I seem to have a hard time validating the serial numbers on the BB tube.
I see no reason to doubt it; the distinct frame form is consistent with other wb4 pics and as it isn't a brand with a huge fan base, why would someone forge or relabel it. The serial number is probably proprietary to whatever shop the frame making was outsourced to.
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Originally Posted by Desert Ryder
I'm a fan of E-stay bikes. Looking forward to seeing the actual bike or build.

I have a thread.
Show Your Elevated Chainstay Bikes

I guess it can pass as one of those beautiful bikes !




Originally Posted by martl
I see no reason to doubt it; the distinct frame form is consistent with other wb4 pics and as it isn't a brand with a huge fan base, why would someone forge or relabel it. The serial number is probably proprietary to whatever shop the frame making was outsourced to.
Thank you! I guess so too, the frame was identical to other pictures I have found on the internet.
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