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uprightbent 09-28-23 09:05 AM

Help ID this old bottle cage
 
Maybe it's just aftermarket junk, but does anyone recognize this logo? Looks like a T over an A but I doubt it's a TA?

Thanks in advance
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ec82fb2e3.jpeg

JulesCW 09-28-23 09:25 AM

That is indeed an old T.A. cage. Attached image grabbed from eBay.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...015d2fb024.jpg

bulgie 09-28-23 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by JulesCW (Post 23028299)
That is indeed an old T.A. cage. Attached image grabbed from eBay.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...015d2fb024.jpg

Funny that your pic shows a steel cage, and a box for the light alloy one. I doubt that cage came out of that box from the factory, unless they screwed up.

But yes, uprightbent shows a real TA light-alloy, in black-ano. The black ones came with the gold plastic keeper, where the silver-ano alloy cages had a black keeper. White keeper on steel cages, which predate the alloy ones by 30 or more years.

TA cages are one of the more frequently copied bike parts ever, not so much anymore but in the C&V era. Almost all the knock-offs used a cheaper way to join the bent-wire part to the plate with the holes where it attaches to the frame. Steel TAs are brazed before chrome-plating; alloy ones are welded*. Knock-offs usually have the plate part sort of wrapped around and staked or peened onto the wire part.

* I think there may have been some real TA alloy cages with the cheaper method, staked-on bottom plate, very late in their run. So maybe not every single alloy TA is welded, but almost all were. The OP's cage is welded. I don't think I've ever seen one of the knock-offs that was welded.

EDIT: Yes, the TA pages at BlackbirdSF shows a TA alloy cage with the bottom plate wrapped and staked, not welded. I don't know if the welded ones are intriniscally better, but I'd say they're more desireable/collectable. The staked ones just look cheap.

Mark B

steelbikeguy 09-28-23 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by uprightbent (Post 23028274)
Maybe it's just aftermarket junk, but does anyone recognize this logo? Looks like a T over an A but I doubt it's a TA?

Thanks in advance

It looks like the one on my Hetchins....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6c4e4d_b_d.jpg

As [MENTION=160106]bulgie[/MENTION] says, it's an alloy cage. It does a fine job of holding my bottles. It's a rather valued, if not valuable, cage, imho. (and it might be rather valuable too, but I haven't checked).

Steve in Peoria

JulesCW 09-28-23 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by bulgie (Post 23028675)
Funny that your pic shows a steel cage, and a box for the light alloy one. I doubt that cage came out of that box from the factory, unless they screwed up.

But yes, uprightbent shows a real TA light-alloy, in black-ano. The black ones came with the gold plastic keeper, where the silver-ano alloy cages had a black keeper. White keeper on steel cages, which predate the alloy ones by 30 or more years.

TA cages are one of the more frequently copied bike parts ever, not so much anymore but in the C&V era. Almost all the knock-offs used a cheaper way to join the bent-wire part to the plate with the holes where it attaches to the frame. Steel TAs are brazed before chrome-plating; alloy ones are welded*. Knock-offs usually have the plate part sort of wrapped around and staked or peened onto the wire part.

* I think there may have been some real TA alloy cages with the cheaper method, staked-on bottom plate, very late in their run. So maybe not every single alloy TA is welded, but almost all were. The OP's cage is welded. I don't think I've ever seen one of the knock-offs that was welded.

EDIT: Yes, the TA pages at BlackbirdSF shows a TA alloy cage with the bottom plate warapped and staked, not welded. I don't know if the welded ones are intriniscally better, but I'd say they're more desireable/collectable. The staked ones just look cheap.

Mark B


Mark, Yep, I was too lazy to find an actually correct photo with matching box and cage. :) Good explanation, as always.

uprightbent 09-30-23 10:30 AM

Thanks for the replies, the knowledge here is always impressive. Previously I googled a few TA logos not seeing this particular one, felling stupid now that I didn't know what I had.


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