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Old 10-23-23, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MooneyBloke
That would be a bit of a tight fit for me. I think a true 25mm or less is about as fat as I'd go.
a bike of the 1980ís no doubt.
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Originally Posted by repechage
a bike of the 1980ís no doubt.
The frame I'm working with is from the 70's. This guy:

Winter project: Japanese market Nishiki Pro

Mounting the current tire barely clears the rear drops. Anything bigger will need to be mounted deflated. This is what it looks with the axle clearing the drops but before going in. With the drop adjuster bolts all the way back I just might be able to clear 28mm tires but I'm not sure the skinny rims would like those.

removing the freewheel was not trivial! The inside of the freewheel itself was bone dry but looking good. This winter I plan on taking the wheels apart, cleaning everything, and reassembling them. Fortunately the spoke nipples are not stuck.

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Later 1970ís post short reach calipers.
still, cannot tell without wheels but if the case, pretty tight.

I had a Harry Quinn from late 1974, Harry filed back the forward 3-4mm of the lower return of the dropout to ease tire removal.
a Del Mondo required the adjusters to be moved back 5mm to get the tire to clear the seat tube.

a friend ordered his with EXACT dimensions- vertical dropouts, the biggest tire he could run was a Clement Seta 220.
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Really cheap tubulars like the Vittoria Rallies and Continental Giros are just not worth the time and money to bother with.
The build quality of those tires are just horrendous, and the ride they provide are no better than clinchers.
Spend a bit more to really realize how good tubulars are, compared to clincher when it comes to ride quality.
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One key ingredient was to look for Thailand produced rubber in tubular tires. They used to be a leading supplier of raw rubber to the tire industry. Pure and refined. Then the tire gurus would carefully age the tubulars before its first outing.

Though today, with far more advancements in chems/ technology into material and tires, probably makes no difference.

For the cheapos, have to give credit to the Tufo line. Might ride like a garden hose but can pretty much count on round as if spun on a lathe. No humps or bulging offset layering.
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About the only tubs available where I live are Vittorio Rallyes. And they are all I can really afford. I think they are made in Thailand. They've gone up in price, like everything else. The last time I bought some, I was shocked how proportionately the price had increased. But they are still comparatively cheap. I can't afford the expensive ones. And nearly all my wheel sets are for tubs, so I'm a 'forever tubber'. One good thing about them is they roll pretty good on lower pressures. I often go with 100 PSI in the back and 80 PSI in the front. (I weigh 72 Kg). On the other hand, no matter what the hell I do, I can't always get them to mount straight. And I've had enough practice over the years , so I have to start thinking that it's "not me". (Begger's can't be choosers ... you pays yer money and takes yer choice.)

Glue!? (You asked) Don't mess around (hahah); if you do tubs, buy proper glue for the application —that is stuff for gluing on tubs. There are very good reasons for this. Forget tape (just my opinion and from experience).

And ... there a lot of different ways and opinions about gluing tubs. Read all of the info about mounting tubs and make a decision. Suggestion: if you are using NEW fresh rims/hoops, scour the metal with a bit of emery cloth before applying glue.
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My two cents.
I have at least 10 bikes with tubulars. One has Veloflex Protour (maybe Race on just Protour, I can't remenber), one has some old Vittoria tubulars that require pumping a lot, so I believe latex tubes. One pair of Continental Sprinters, one pair Continental Gatorskins, one pair Vittoria Rally 25 mm, at least 4 bikes with Continental Giro. The others have some kind of older tubulars that are stil kicking good.

The Veloflexes are good and feel better, but I am not sure, why, maybe they should because they cost at least 3 times more thah Giro? I am not sure I could differentiate my tubulars in a blind test. I always thought that the best riding/the bike I like most is my Motobecane Team Champion with 25 mm Vittoria Rally tubulars.
The Giros are often not perfectly round, but from all that I have I can't feel it on the road.

Of course, ymmv. I am not a racer, I ride about 2000 miles a year (season is short here) and the roads are quite clean, I had just 2 flats in 8 years.
I used Tufo tape for most of the tubulars. Very easy and quick. I mounted the Veloflexes with Vittoria mastik glue, it was a major pain in the backside, I have a thread somewhere about my first attempt to mount tubulars with glue. Mastik is much cheaper than Tufo tape, though.

So, I use the best tubulars for my crown jewel bike/bikes. I would use Continental Sprinters on my bikes more if they were tanwall. I do not hesitate to use Giro's and I can't say they are terrible, I would say decent for the money (at least were when I bought them last time, about 3 years ago). But, like I said, I have little experience with puncture resistance on bad roads, tire changes on the side of the road and tubular repairs.

In a OP situation I would try Continental Sprinters if black tires are ok aesthetically.
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