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randyjawa 10-26-23 05:09 AM

Campy Component ID...
 
As I get older I tend to forget this and that only to realize that some of the this and that that I forgot I never really knew in the first place. Anyway, I got a really great bike a day or two ago. Paid more for that vintage road bike than any other - ever. I would like to know what Campy components are on my new bike. I tried researching the issue but got totally confused. Again, old age and malfunctioning this and that. Anyway, can anyone help me ID the components on my Marinoni...


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...357cd47977.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d4acfb936d.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a71c98daa8.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...481df06616.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6443ae4caf.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...534fc5f985.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...081c89a19e.jpg

P!N20 10-26-23 05:37 AM

Record

Circa '94

https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...uct_range.html

randyjawa 10-26-23 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by P!N20 (Post 23052821)


Thank you very much. To be honest, the Record designation does not surprise me. I bought the Marinoni, through a good friend, from a recently widowed lady. Her late husband was a serious enthusiast and he rode high end steeds. My friend asked if I could find buyers for the bikes her husband left behind. I bought one (the Marinoni)...
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3bb04ce806.jpg

...sold two (Holdsworth Professional and a TT bike)...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5f261d0931.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8806fc79be.jpg

...got stuck with one (grand daughter wanted the Terry Norco so her dad bought it for her)...
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...129d55873b.jpg

I thought a more user friendly bike would be better for her to use, so I bought and trade her for this little used Trek...
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...032f776958.jpg

...but could not find a buyer for this one (I want it but can't justify buying another bike this year)...
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc272202ec.jpg

Spaghetti Legs 10-26-23 06:36 AM

I agree and was going to hazard a ‘93 or 94 guess without digging out my catalogs. I think 95 was when they went to the script logo on the cranks and shifters. I love my Campy 8 speed; rock solid group set.

Shriram 10-26-23 10:50 AM

Lovely bike and looks in great shape. Hope you are enjoying the ride.

jdawginsc 10-26-23 11:55 AM

Campy 8 speed stuff is often confusing.

SJX426 10-26-23 12:16 PM

Its is of some value to understand you have a first gen Ergos.
I agree with he 9speed dependability. I ran it on the Pinarello for a while with properly spaced DA cluster , but with Chorus.
https://live.staticflickr.com/1884/3...2de3592_5k.jpgP1010553 on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/1844/3...373decd_5k.jpgCampagnolo first install on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/1786/4...136b088_5k.jpgDA/WM blcok on Flickr

P!N20 10-26-23 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by SJX426 (Post 23053145)
Its is of some value to understand you have a first gen Ergos.

OP's Ergos are not first gen, which can be identified by the 'foot' at the base of the lever:

https://www.thehackneypeddler.co.uk/...g?v=1674669217

panzerwagon 10-26-23 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by SJX426 (Post 23053145)
Its is of some value to understand you have a first gen Ergos.


Originally Posted by P!N20 (Post 23053278)
OP's Ergos are not first gen, which can be identified by the 'foot' at the base of the lever:

https://www.thehackneypeddler.co.uk/...g?v=1674669217

Just curious, is there any significance to the first gen ergos?

P!N20 10-26-23 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by SurferRosa (Post 23053592)
Interesting that the Disraeli Gears site shows a June 1990 catalog with an 8-speed cassette offered with the Record group (and also Croce d'Auna.

https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...ue_scan_6.html

Yeah, the dual mode downtube shifters were available in an 8 speed version. And I want some!

P!N20 10-26-23 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by panzerwagon (Post 23053566)
Just curious, is there any significance to the first gen ergos?

Only that they were Campagnolo's first venture into integrated shifting. I guess it marks the point when they said goodbye to friction shifting, never to return.

(Fun fact: the g-springs in the first gen shifters are backwards - eg; 'right' g-springs go in the left lever and vice versa.)

randyjawa 10-27-23 12:14 AM

I can't help but wonder if the bike was purchased as it sits, with an added saddle and bag. That said, it would seem that the bike is early to mid 90s. With that in mind, I can't help but ask if the Campagnolo Atlanta 96 wheels are inappropriate for the bike?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5ae5c4c4f.jpg

daviddavieboy 10-27-23 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by P!N20 (Post 23053610)
Yeah, the dual mode downtube shifters were available in an 8 speed version. And I want some!


something like these ?


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d0b82f7bd.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1f83615d5.jpeg

P!N20 10-27-23 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by randyjawa (Post 23053626)
I can't help but wonder if the bike was purchased as it sits, with an added saddle and bag. That said, it would seem that the bike is early to mid 90s. With that in mind, I can't help but ask if the Campagnolo Atlanta 96 wheels are inappropriate for the bike?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5ae5c4c4f.jpg

Good to see the original fork!

I agree that the Atlantas have no place on that bike…you should send them to me. :D

jdawginsc 10-27-23 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by randyjawa (Post 23053626)
I can't help but wonder if the bike was purchased as it sits, with an added saddle and bag. That said, it would seem that the bike is early to mid 90s. With that in mind, I can't help but ask if the Campagnolo Atlanta 96 wheels are inappropriate for the bike?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5ae5c4c4f.jpg

Atlantas are appropriate on anything! Great rims. Wish I had a pair!

styggno1 10-27-23 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by panzerwagon (Post 23053566)
Just curious, is there any significance to the first gen ergos?

It depends on how you look upon it. For me - as these parts are becoming "vintage" and us nerds are beginning to dwell on what is catalog-/period-/nerd-correct in our builds - there is significance. For others, more normal people - absolutly not... As time goes by it is certainly going to be of significance - compare with discussions on other and older Campagnolo parts - "the curvature and stampings on late 60ies to early 70ies Record brake levers".

A compilation from catalogs - meaning they probably were already made in the year before and available to teams and a select others - for instance the 1992 "hockey stick" ergos were tested in magazines in december 1991 (photos taken probably 2-4 months in before):

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c0d1da5d_k.jpg

I am fortunate to have a set of 1992 in splendid condition. In 10-15 years time they will buy me a couple of months of lewd living...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b0f02f1e_h.jpg

SJX426 10-27-23 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by P!N20 (Post 23053278)
OP's Ergos are not first gen, which can be identified by the 'foot' at the base of the lever:

A detail I didn't know about, my bad!
I was using the reference from Branford where there are two "generations of design." referenced for Chorus and Record.
Rebuilding Ergo Levers — Branford Bike


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