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Old 11-27-23, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by noglider
@cyccommute, thanks for clarifying, though I didn't picture you putting a gas motor on a bike. I think it's fine to enjoy stuff like that briefly and even to fantasize about it. Practical details make themselves clear soon enough. I knew a fellow who had put a gas engine on a bike. The noise was horrific and so were the fumes. He was in high school, so I didn't say a word to discourage him. He was experimenting, and I knew he would get practical one day. He did. He became a heroic bike mechanic as a young adult. Unfortunately, while riding his unmotorized bike, a car driver hit and killed him. He was so young that it was tragic, and I learned that I had been an influence on him. It's painful to think about.

I am not as opposed to motorized bikes as you are. I don't crave one yet, but eventually, I think I'll have one. I read a lot of stories about some use it to go faster, some use it to go farther, and some use it to ride when riding a bike is otherwise impractical. In fact, the area around our home in rural New York State is quite hilly. I occasionally ride my bike to the food coop where we buy most of our food, but only occasionally, because it's a big undertaking because of the hills. It's only two miles each way, but whenever I think about it, I ask myself if I have the energy to take it on. If I had an e-bike, it would be a no-brainer. And compared with driving a car, that's a win, because the difference between the energy the e-bike trip takes and the energy a car -- electric or gas -- uses, is a big one. If an e-bike replaces a car, or if a few e-bike trips replace a few car trips, it seems like a good thing to me. In my current life, I drive a car only once or twice a week. I'd be happy if I could reduce that further.

@52telecaster, it's amazing that you say that. The Honda Fit is the only car model I can picture owning right now, and I am also dismayed at the selection of electric cars in the US market. Asia and Europe have Fit-sized electric cars, and we don't. The Chevy Bolt is the closest, and they just discontinued the car version and now only make the SUV version. Grr! My spouse's car is pretty nifty but it's insanely oversized and insanely overpowered. I thought one driving (!) force behind EVs is that they save energy. Well, we're not saving energy when we accelerate from 0 to 60 in under 3 seconds. Do we really need that ability? These makers are showing off, and yes, I'm impressed, but I really could live without it. Will we ever do anything about the American appetite for power?
My goal is to not buy another vehicle until I can buy the electric vehicle that will replace the fit. Closing in on 150k right now so I hope the Honda lasts!
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Old 11-27-23, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by repechage
To keep it C&V
when I was a wee lad I received as a gift the Mattel Vroom sound making motor for my bike.

attached to the down tube and seat tube.
had a throttle switch and key!

the X-15 Vroom cycle recumbent trike was a real functioning toy with a sound switch
I remember those!!! My nephew had one on his Schwinn. For me it was playing cards clipped to the racks with clothespins and the sound of the cards hitting the spokes , such fun! Man we were cool.
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Old 11-27-23, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kabuki12
I remember those!!! My nephew had one on his Schwinn. For me it was playing cards clipped to the racks with clothespins and the sound of the cards hitting the spokes , such fun! Man we were cool.
I was very disappointed that the motor could not propel the bike.
I did not have a vocabulary term for it but design authenticity was the issue.

12 years later I had a discussion with an industrial designer and found I was at a conflict point with his view, for him a product that sold well was good enough if it was the style and beauty that cinched the deal, I expected good function too. Of course, he got royalties. Perhaps that is why it was a “good” product.
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Originally Posted by chain_whipped
You Madhatten's like to wreck a good thing. These classy e-bikes on this forum thread might end up like this. Lol

https://youtu.be/ZpNCii-OTqw?si=fNth_vhLjFEBEf2C

Or worse, they'll all be riding electric wheelchairs:
Thank god, we are not living under a communist rule… I hope!
Rectification program sounds so much better than stealing. 😉
It seems CCP will soon be yanking away motorized wheelchairs.

This was amusing, thank you.
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Originally Posted by gugie
The earliest motorcycles were a bicycle with a motor added on, ergo my quip.

25 mph on the MUP behind my house is way too fast, too many elderly people, baby strollers, and people walking dogs on it for that to make any sense whatsoever. Of course, Racer Rick can hit those speeds as well. Most people on e-bikes can easily hit those speeds.

I'm not against e-bikes for the reasons you mentioned, but it's kinda like the wild west out there right now.
Wild eyed throttle twisters who ain’t afraid to die.

way back in the 1970’s in California, 49cc mopeds were invading. A loophole. Premix gas for most. Peugeot, Garelli, Motobecane, Puch… Within a few years it was DMV motorcycle tags, helmet laws, liability insurance and the bloom was off the sales bubble.
‘then came Japanese the scooters, Hilgard Avenue near UCLA, sorority row was chocked full of them parked, something pushed that over a demand cliff, still some but not the number that were.

sharing the bike path and lanes are an issue. The beach path has been an orthopedic war zone with inline skaters jamming through too.
why I stick to the street. Other than the very sparse hours.
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag
I'm really lusting after one of these. They are reproductions of board track racers from way back when (1920' and 1930's). So, they are very C&V.



I saw a "Harley Davidson" branded one several years ago- and then someone in the neighborhood has a "Royal Enfield" branded one.

I love that old motorcycle aesthetic- but motorcycles are not my bag... ... baby.
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Motorcycles and motorcycling are fun but bicycles are better. On a bicycle, you get great exercise. That's something you don't get on a motor-powered cycle.
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Paul Brodie is (or was) big into the recreation board track racers.
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Imma go over to the bike forums and talk about cars and motorcycles.

(There are other sites for those things, homies.)
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Originally Posted by jethin
Imma go over to the bike forums and talk about cars and motorcycles.

(There are other sites for those things, homies.)
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