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30 Years Ago: November 1993 in Bicycling magazine

Old 11-26-23, 09:43 PM
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30 Years Ago: November 1993 in Bicycling magazine

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"Tip Talk" (readers' tips)
"King of Parts" (Shimano's dominance of the bicycle components market)

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I have this issue too. I started seriously cycling in the summer of 1993.
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I got into cycling seriously around this time with the best I could afford, a lugged steel giant with a mix of RSX/RXl00, biopace, and sti levers and that bike was way ahead of the 10 year older raleign I'd been borrowing from the neighbor. Looking back at it compared to what I would be riding even 5 years later, and the bike was slow and sluggish, but the parts were reliable, worked fairly smoothly and never gave me anything to complain about. It just worked and worked well. Having worked on earlier bikes without shimano equipment it became easy to see why it grew into the industry giant. Working in shops also let me see how it needed competition to keep it excelling and Sram has done just that while not letting shimano dominate the same way. Now with microshift on plenty of entry level bikes with its gravel and mtb groups, sram being a large presence in road, campy never quite disappearing and even slightly gaining some market share, and companies like sehsah trying to work their way in I'm guessing shimano controls less than half the market.
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The Shimano article cites a "click-shifting" system, offered in 1984, as Shimano's "breakthrough". The advent of SIS, in contrast to the flawed AccuShift system by Suntour, seems to have been the "right" combination of events that began a commercial domination.

Is that a thread-less stem I see on the cover photo rider's GT? I had thought that they didn't come in till a couple years later.
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As always thank you very much!
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‘…then they drop the ball on warranties…”

that huge ongoing crank recall comes to mind.

a comment years ago to me was that Japanese corporations are very humble until they get confident, then they get arrogant. Probably can apply to almost any corporation. GM once sold just over half the new cars in the USA.
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That "reader's tips" section is money. Somebody (else) should compile all of them into a book.

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Someone needs to scan The Bike Tech newsletter…
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One day in the early '80's, Kozo Shimano, son of the Shimano corporation's then-president and a member of the Johns Hopkins bike racing team (sponsored by our Baltimore bike shop), stopped by the shop and asked my opinion on the way his dad's company was operating in the U.S. market. I gave him an earful, complaining about the ever-changing components and the difficulty of keeping up with the burgeoning need for newer and newer repair parts.

I pointed out that Suntour kept the same components in their lineup for years and that many of the higher-end Suntour components used parts identical to and interchangeable with those in the corresponding Campy components.

I suggested that Shimano would do well to follow Suntour's example.

Given how things turned out, I'm not sure Kozo accurately explained my views to his father.
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Interesting article but thing is that Shimano still has a very big market share in front of SRAM and Campy. Most of the road bike racers ride on dura ace andin the MTB racing it is more or less the same with XTR
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Originally Posted by repechage
‘…then they drop the ball on warranties…”

that huge ongoing crank recall comes to mind.

a comment years ago to me was that Japanese corporations are very humble until they get confident, then they get arrogant. Probably can apply to almost any corporation. GM once sold just over half the new cars in the USA.
The crank recall is due to the change in the method of fabrication, the cranks are bonded instead of being forged therefore more prone to break, let's not forget cable eating shifting brifters made after the 7800 was out of production. GM got it all wrong since 1972 when its cars declined in quality and even more in the 80's with caddy v8 6-4 and the olds 350 diesel v8 engines.
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I’m indifferent to the Shimano article but the tip of using an inner tube as finishing tape - brilliant!
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Originally Posted by repechage
Someone needs to scan The Bike Tech newsletter…
https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Articles/Bike_Tech/

I am not the copyright owner and I do not have permission to post these. Feel free to download them all and save them to your hard drive, in case they are taken down from my server.
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Originally Posted by georges1
The crank recall is due to the change in the method of fabrication, the cranks are bonded instead of being forged therefore more prone to break, let's not forget cable eating shifting brifters made after the 7800 was out of production. GM got it all wrong since 1972 when its cars declined in quality and even more in the 80's with caddy v8 6-4 and the olds 350 diesel v8 engines.
you forgot the Chevrolet Vega, 1971 model year. That plant also suffered from labor unrest, workers would sabotage cars, rip the new glued to the glass rear view mirrors and chip the windshield a bit. The glass would require replacement before sale. They tried things to protect vega cars in train transit, the car would drive up a ramp of a special rail car, secured and the ramp was folded up into the rail car.
required special engine seals and then that darn nickel-sil treated aluminum piston bores in the all aluminum block. Every day could be a different compression test result. 60 minutes did an extended report even on the issues.

bolding to aluminum is really tricky, it oxidizes so fast. Getting it super clean is a challenge too. The glue bond sculpted mating interface is very hard to control, plus making sure it is sealed all around to keep moisture out.
too fancy.
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Originally Posted by georges1
GM got it all wrong since 1972 when its cars declined in quality and even more in the 80's with caddy v8 6-4 and the olds 350 diesel v8 engines.
I ordered a 1988 Chevrolet C1500 pickup from the factory. Still have it. Over 300,000+ miles (nearly 500,000 km), it's been remarkably reliable except for a few minor issues (alternators, front wheel bearings).
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