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Old 12-17-23, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCaled
I would agree it is not the most flattering pic, especially alongside the others on this thread, but that is the picture from the Peugeot website, full size - https://cycles.peugeot.com/road/legend/lr01
It's really my reaction to the frame graphics. They seem wimpy compared to those of the heyday.
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Originally Posted by ascherer
I dunno, it feels like a picture that's been photcopied so many times that it's lost resolution. Opinion of one.

White on white background is tough to look at.


I actually dig that State 4130 road bike - looks cool! And a great bang for the buck. I know it has 'distasteful' features, but that's okay - I'm not well known for my refined tastes 'round these parts
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Wow, I like that Raleigh!

This Creme Cycles ECHO Solo was posted in the Gios thread and is a great example. Inexpensive and, I'm sure, a bit on the heavy side, but that's not really the point. It meets nearly all of the criteria for a C&V style racing bike available brand new today. Only 1 size (55) and no shipping to the USA.


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Originally Posted by Kilroy1988
For the frame and fork. Downtube shifters not included.

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Yup. Looking more closely at the Daccordi website it's frame & fork only for their classic models even though they show them as completed bikes
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^^^^ Basso is close to C&V style, but needs non-aero rims, classic-style crankset and silver components. Bonus points for quill stem and lugged frame
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Originally Posted by cegerer
^^^^ Basso is close to C&V style, but needs non-aero rims...
Aero rims, perhaps not as deep, were definitely a thing in the 1980s.
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Originally Posted by IdahoBrett
And a fixed gear. Again Iím illiterate-ish.

My apologies for straying from race bikes. Thought these kind of fit, wearing the Peugeot nameÖ

LU01 Fixed gear
Did everyone is France become smaller in the last few years or is there some mysterious French method for measurement of frames? A 55 is hardly a large.

And clearly, there is no one left at Peugeot who understands how cable guides are supposed to be mounted.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Spadoni
And clearly, there is no one left at Peugeot who understands how cable guides are supposed to be mounted.
If there was a real need to route a cable down the LH side of the top tube, you'd think that by now there would be available some clamps with 270 degrees between the bulge for the housing and the attachment bolts. I have not seen them yet, are they out there?
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kinda wish I had not clicked on this thread. So much want.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Aero rims, perhaps not as deep, were definitely a thing in the 1980s.
Aero type rims are not necessarily a problem here. But the WTO 45s on the Basso are 26.5 x 45 carbon aero $2500 wonder wheels. Not C&V style at all. Silver anodized Campagnolo Omega Strada V style - yes!
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One would think that if modern made retro bikes can be priced so high, that done of that high pricing can influence real C&V bikes to be valued more than they are today. I guess that can be just wishful thinking.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
One would think that if modern made retro bikes can be priced so high, that done of that high pricing can influence real C&V bikes to be valued more than they are today. I guess that can be just wishful thinking.
Which brings up a good point: who IS the market for these new C&V style bikes? Is it us? Or is it the younger generation hipsters who are newly discovering these 'analog' bikes? The same younger generation who buy vintage film cameras, vinyl records, mechanical watches and VCRs because they're fascinated by things they never experienced new? If that's the case and there's a viable market, the authentic C&V bikes should go up in value.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
One would think that if modern made retro bikes can be priced so high, that done of that high pricing can influence real C&V bikes to be valued more than they are today. I guess that can be just wishful thinking.
Two different markets: (i) cheapskates like me/us who have been into C&V since the original bikes were new and who are primed to find fault with the reproductions, like Tolkien fanatics at showings of the three Hobbit movies, despite having no interest whatever in buying one of the new bikes, and (ii) those who have no problem paying for a more or less faithful recreation of a bike lusted after in youth.
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Originally Posted by Fredo76
I want a new Lasagna.
That's so cheesy
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Originally Posted by chain_whipped
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Only 250 were made in 2020, pretty sure they're all sold now.
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I have a 2016 Masi.
Honestly I think its a great bike. I dare to call it vintage. It's a sticker on a China made bicycle. However the Chrome is great, the paint is great. It has a very harsh ride! LOL. This is my first and only "modern" Campy group and I'm impressed with it!

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Originally Posted by P!N20
That's so cheesy
I bought this new C&V style jersey a while back. It's one of my favorites. Everybody remembers the 1968 Formaggio Linguine team, right?


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Originally Posted by tiger1964
If there was a real need to route a cable down the LH side of the top tube, you'd think that by now there would be available some clamps with 270 degrees between the bulge for the housing and the attachment bolts. I have not seen them yet, are they out there?
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I hesitate to post this one. It's so close to what we're looking for but just not there However, the downtube shifters and crankset make it worthy of at least a glance. Of course, the flat bars are a 100% fail and would require immediate replacement (preferably into a trash can) along with proper brake levers. The straight fork? Well, let's just pretend it's not there. It would be easy enough to lose the fenders, so no big deal there I suppose.

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Originally Posted by cegerer
^^^^ Basso is close to C&V style, but needs non-aero rims, classic-style crankset and silver components. Bonus points for quill stem and lugged frame
And raked fork blades.
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This Liotto is looking very nice

https://www.liotto.com/bici/super-80

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Originally Posted by reissue59
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The only traditional lugged frame that Marinoni currently makes is the SL model, available as a frame or a complete bike in 8 frame sizes and dozens of colour schemes. Their other steel frames are welded.

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Originally Posted by rlorenz2
This Liotto is looking very nice

https://www.liotto.com/bici/super-80


Yes! I'm so glad you posted this one! These made the rounds on the forum a couple years ago I think, and the one I remember was the Liotto '60. What a beautiful bike. I can't post pictures here from this computer for some reason, but what a looker. Any ideas on price from their website? If I wanted to get a 'new' classic bike, it would be the Liotto '60.
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