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A Thousand Fathers - Early History of the Rear Derailleur

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Nice! Can we have a PDF version?
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Originally Posted by rider19
Nice! Can we have a PDF version?
Sure. Here's a link that will be active for a week: https://1drv.ms/b/s!AgHfxA8atbGnn2Q_...ykF8k?e=kgr2mw
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That's one of the great series of article on bike tech history, imho! David Herlihy did a series of short articles... usually just two pages... called "Backpedaling". They started in the Nov 1993 issue of Bicycle Guide, and continued into 1996. He is still writing articles on bike history in Adventure Cycling. Very interesting stuff!

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That's some interesting rear brake cable routing on page 92...
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Fun, but remember before you quote any of this, it's where we were 34 years ago, and first reference 'The Dancing Chain', 5th ed. and check Disraeli Gears.

"Irritated with Velocio's tireless campaign for derailleurs, Desgrange referred to him as 'that fool with the little wheels.'"

Velocio's 'little wheels' weren't the pulleys on a derailleur - they were actually the wheels on his bike!



"It's a nice gadget, but I would need an extra pair of legs to compensate for all the friction in those gears!"

The late Frank Berto repeated the old French canard of IGHs being 'friction boxes'. Imagine his surprise when he and Dr. Chet Kyle tested drivetrains for the International Human Powered Vehicle Association and found broken-in and well-lubricated three-speed hubs to be, on average, more mechanically efficient than the gears on a Shimano 27-speed derailleur set.

Herlihy never mentions the Continental racing rules of the era specifying - and critically, prohibiting - the use of certain equipment and components. Over in England, where they practiced time trialing rather than mass start racing, there were no such rules. Both IGHs and the derailleur drivetrains of the day were employed. By the end of the 1930s, all the major GB time-to-distance and point-to-point records were held by riders using...hub gears!
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SpeedofLite Fabulous articles! Thank you for posting this for us.
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