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Franco-Suisse to International

Old 01-07-24, 12:41 PM
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Franco-Suisse to International

Doe anybody know the relation between the Carlton Franco-Suisse and the Raleigh International? The later CFS frames look almost identical to the RI. Did the CFS just become the RI, and if so, when? I have read Peter Kohler's great article about the early 60's Carlton's, but there's not much on the later ones.
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Raleigh Industries of America was the US-based importer of the British-built product. While there were some bikes in the later sixties imported that were simultaneously branded "Carlton" (downtube decal) and "Raleigh" (headbadge), I suspect for the purposes of brand unity they specified the Raleigh International as we know it for the US market. Carlton also marketed models called "International", early ones were up-market and had very ornate lugs and the ones in the '70s looked more like the bike we know as the Raleigh Grand Prix.

https://www.classiclightweights.co.u...international/
https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/...tional.402198/

Also keep in mind that before the Raleigh International appeared in US brochures in the beginning of the '70s, there was a version of the "Competition" with chromed Nervex Pro lugs, 531DB tubing and chrome socks front and rear.
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Originally Posted by daka

Also keep in mind that before the Raleigh International appeared in US brochures in the beginning of the '70s, there was a version of the "Competition" with chromed Nervex Pro lugs, 531DB tubing and chrome socks front and rear.
My 1962 Carlton Franco-Suisse matches your lug, tubing, and chrome description of the Raleigh Competition I'll have to ask the gang on the Carlton owner's channel.


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