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Old 02-03-24, 12:29 PM
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The Shimano 1055 Shuffle Chapter. No....

...... OK I've lost track but, as I already have 3 other more urgent bike frame paint jobs ( Falcon, Gitane Interclub and Fuji Suncrest 650b conversion) I wasn't looking forward to repainting the Super Sport this year so I've been going through a BUNCH of different possible combinations for the 1055 that wouldn't require a repaint. I came back to one for the 1055 that I had initially discounted because the bike works SO well the way it is. However, at the end of the day I think it would make a great home for the 1055 group and it came with 700c wheels originally so the 1055 calipers will work. It is my 1990 Diamondback Centurion Interval, I love the ride and handling and it's a full Tange Champion No.2 frame. I replaced the original Cr-Mo unicrown Tange fork because it had a manufacturing flaw, one blade was welded 3 or 4 mm higher than the other making the wheel alignment a very sketchy proposition. I got a sloping crown Cr-Mo fork that was a much better match for the lugged frame and it was black powder coated so it matched the black paint pefectly. I can't prove it made a measurable difference but the bike "feels" even better to me with the new fork, it definitely looks better. It is currently equipped with mostly black components which includes Microshift 3X9 deraiileurs and brifters, FSA triple crankset, no-logo Tektro brakes, bars etc. I will move pretty much everything except the Diamondback logo stem from the Interval to the Technium and then rebuild the Interval with the 1055 group. The Interval will get a traditional quill stem, I have a 3ttt 1-1/8 black threadless road stem for the Technium and I'll camouflage the logo on the bars somehow. I'd switch them out for something more traditional but I really don't want to have to do the cockpit all over until I know I like the combination. I think the black will make any interesting contrast to the pink( What DO you call it?) on the Technium, or not, but it will at least get the Technium on the road with a proven drivetrain so I can get an honest feel for the frame. I think the brakes have enough slot left to reach a 700c wheel in the Technium frame. If not I'll have to get a set of black R539 Tektros but that's OK, I have a home for the current Tektros. I haven't decided if I'll move these wheels to the Technium or not. If I do I have a set of Mavic Open Pros on Ultegra hubs I may put on the Interval. Sorry, the redwalls stay on the Interval but the red bottle cages will get the axe. I'm also curious to see how much tire I can fit in the Technium.

One other thing, I forgot the RD is a 1056 GS long cage, not a 1055.




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Watch the ending of this one.

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Originally Posted by nomadmax
Watch the ending of this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k6OsRGAADo
This is disturbing, but appreciated.
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Chiming in to say I think the color is gorgeous and goes well with the white headtube.
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Originally Posted by polymorphself
Chiming in to say I think the color is gorgeous and goes well with the white headtube.
It's actually darker in person and the head tube is more cream colored. It's growing on me.

I can't bring myself to break up the Diamondback so for now the 1055 group is going back on the shelf. I have a decent set of Cyclone Mk II derailleurs ( GT rear) that will probably end up on the Technium with a Campy Triomphe crankset and Tektro R539 calipers. As always subject to change.
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Wow... I watched the vid and saw the end of a nice build end up with head coming off the TT and DT tubes. What a horror that could have been!

Years ago, I read that TIG welding an un-bonded Al frame like my Vitus 979 was a huge 'no-no'. If it were jigged properly, why not?

This is not meant to be a troll or a stupid question. I just cannot understand why not, if indeed one were to take all the epoxy off before TIG welding.
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Wow... I watched the vid and saw the end of a nice build end up with head coming off the TT and DT tubes. What a horror that could have been!
Fortunately, the top tube hung on long enough for him to stop the bike. Did you happen to notice the carbon-colored, tapered sleeves that protruded from the tubes?
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
Watch the ending of this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k6OsRGAADo
Now I'm torn. Mine would make pretty wall art but it's also a gorgeous bicycle that I wanted to ride.

Who's to know if this would ever happen though? Ugh. Likely no way to test it either. Mods should retitle this thread as maybe more can chime in?

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Originally Posted by tkm
Now I'm torn. Mine would make pretty wall art but it's also a gorgeous bicycle that I wanted to ride.

Who's to know if this would ever happen though? Ugh. Likely no way to test it either. Mods should retitle this thread as maybe more can chime in?

Or start a new thread since this wasn't the original subject, it kind of got hijacked. I'm fine with it being discussed here as it's relevant to my Technium as well but I'm not quite done with Piglet updates ( consider yourselves warned ) and I'd hate to have to hijack my own thread.
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Back to the Technium.....

I'm going back to my original plan of running 3X7 Shimano RSX on the Technium. I found a set of older 47-57mm reach NASHBAR 510-D brake calipers that are very similar in appearance to the Shimano RSX so now I can use 700c wheels. I still have a bit of reorganizing to do in the garage but I'm hoping to get the Technium on the stand in the near future. It will be the first of hopefully several builds this year. I have a LOT of catching up to do! Now, where did I put that 700c wheelset with the 7 speed freehub?

They'll need a little TLC but should clean up nicely.
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The "pig" shows it true colors......

Just went out and dug out a set of wheels. They're Weinmann XTR 16 700c rims with black spokes on black no name hubs. They have an 8 speed freehub and there is a 7 speed cassette with spacer already on them but there is also one humungous dork disc behind the cassette! That's gotta go. I was worried about what they'd look like on the Technium but I actually like the way it looks.

I hadn't had it in the sunlight for a very long time and realized it's NOTHING like it looks in the pictures in my original post. Not sure why I thought I didn't like it before because I love the color now!



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Looks like the frame and fork will take some decent size tires but the brake calipers might limit my choices. I have a set of Tektro R536's on the way, that's right 536 NOT 539, maybe they'll allow a bit more tire, I'd like to run at least 35mm, possibly 38..

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Just went out and dug out a set of wheels. They're Weinmann XTR 16 700c rims with black spokes on black no name hubs. They have an 8 speed freehub and there is a 7 speed cassette with spacer already on them but there is also one humungous dork disc behind the cassette! That's gotta go. I was worried about what they'd look like on the Technium but I actually like the way it looks.

I hadn't had it in the sunlight for a very long time and realized it's NOTHING like it looks in the pictures in my original post. Not sure why I thought I didn't like it before because I love the color now!


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I have 27 x 1 3/8 tires on my 450. I'd need a longer caliper reach than even 47-57mm if I went to 700c, but the space is certainly there for a 700x35 if I found a suitable brake caliper for it.

Raleigh put beautiful paint jobs on some of those Technium frames. Very period correct given the late 80's color palette.

Still leery about finishing off the build though given the bonding issues that have been coming up. And what I meant about editing the thread title is that it should include "Raleigh Technium" in it. I stumbled across this thread only because I accidentally clicked on it.
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And what I meant about editing the thread title is that it should include "Raleigh Technium" in it. I stumbled across this thread only because I accidentally clicked on it.
Yeah, that would probably help, I didn't see it going where it's gone or I probably would have included that. So. Mods, how about it?
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Thoughts?

Oh hell, I'm doin' it. The blue is a pair of Mavic rims I bought for a blue bike and they were a totally different shade from the picture when they arrived and clashed horribly with the paint on that bike. I have the Technium hanging next to my Lilac and Periwinkle '72 Competition and I started thinking the Technium might look good with a Navy Blue or Periwinkle saddle and bar tape. THEN I remembered these rims. I like it!

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Fortunately, the top tube hung on long enough for him to stop the bike. Did you happen to notice the carbon-colored, tapered sleeves that protruded from the tubes?
I did. I assumed that black stuff was de-bonded epoxy. I'm just guessing that it had turned black in the autoclave. I didn't see any signs of Al corrosion ... just another bit of mystery to me.
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