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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
(Post 23151466)
bibliobob: Holy poop! Holy poop! Holy poop! What a find! At 61cm ctc, it ought to fit you very well. I look forward to seeing it at a Third Saturday ride. Or at Eroica. Or at both.
If there is a concours at Eroica CA, or even if there is just a place to display bikes, you definitely ought to show this one with the provenance (laminated copies thereof - I wouldn't let the originals out of the house). It's very much worthy of sharing. |
Originally Posted by smd4
(Post 23151469)
This bike has the thin white tape(?) demarcation between the chrome and the paint that I would like to use on my own bike. Do you know what it is? Is it some type of tape?
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Amazing bit of cycling history you have there, Bob! Thanks much for sharing!
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Originally Posted by bibliobob
(Post 23151841)
Minimal preservation is on the menu...
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Originally Posted by bibliobob
(Post 23151845)
Definitely appears to paint. I've seen the same on some other Spence Cinellis.
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bibliobob - the world bands on the seat tube to me are like Cinelli serial numbers, you never know what will turn up or upside down.
‘I referenced them keenly when I decided to replace the missing bands on my bike. ‘green is the most often closest to the herald. The percentage that are both blue top really varies. I have also seen both green top. I have a Colnago from the same period and it has the green stripe to top. I have seen others, my guess is that the transfer maker goofed and inverted the array for a batch. Different than Cinelli where there is no typography on those. |
Originally Posted by bibliobob
(Post 23150982)
his frequent request to not include downtube decals,
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the DT decals frequently came buggered / damaged from Italy as they were varnish slide and not clearcoated
so they were included on backing paper but not applied Old school like on your Revell model kit from the 1960s /markp |
Originally Posted by rm -rf
(Post 23151143)
Wow, the bike looks great and the paperwork is very interesting.
CPI inflation calculator: $687 in 1973 is $4925 now. |
Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 23151319)
That's very cool. So when did Spence Wolf retire/sell the shop? From what I could find, the latest owner closed the store in 2022, noted as 33 years after he started--so 1989. But was Spence Wolf running the shop through the 1980s?
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Spence moved his shop to Pacific Grove CA in 1978 and formed a partnership with Hector Chavez called "Winning Wheels".
Sold the Cupertino name and inventory to John Finley Scott in 81. Spence retired to Covelo CA, hepassed in 1993 Bill Bryant and Carter Milhouse were taken on as partners by Scott in '82 (pic below) the shop re-opened in a convenience store mini mall in Mountain view in 84 it returned to Cupertino, a location near De Anza College. Al Budris bought the shop in 1988 and sold it to Vance Sprock in 1992, located to another location on De Anza Boulevard at McLellan and it remained there till 2022 when it closed. /markp https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...beea2bb51e.jpg here's a pic of Spence's old cog board, was still there in the garage at 10800 Randy Lane in 2004 ! https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a391626563.jpg |
Nice one Bob.
Took a few minutes for me to decipher...Clement CdM silks https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5977710dcf.png |
Originally Posted by mpetry912
(Post 23153666)
Spence moved his shop to Pacific Grove CA in 1978 and formed a partnership with Hector Chavez called "Winning Wheels".
Sold the Cupertino name and inventory to John Finley Scott in 81. Spence retired to Covelo CA, hepassed in 1993 Bill Bryant and Carter Milhouse were taken on as partners by Scott in '82 (pic below) the shop re-opened in a convenience store mini mall in Mountain view in 84 it returned to Cupertino, a location near De Anza College. Al Budris bought the shop in 1988 and sold it to Vance Sprock in 1992, located to another location on De Anza Boulevard at McLellan and it remained there till 2022 when it closed. /markp https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...beea2bb51e.jpg here's a pic of Spence's old cog board, was still there in the garage at 10800 Randy Lane in 2004 ! https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a391626563.jpg |
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Wow! Mark, you have so many images, just fantastic, thanks for sharing these!
Guy |
Originally Posted by mpetry912
(Post 23153666)
Al Budris bought the shop in 1988 and sold it to Vance Sprock in 1992, located to another location on De Anza Boulevard at McLellan
and it remained there till 2022 when it closed. /markp [/img] During the era of Vance's ownership the shop moved twice. It started in a strip mall at De Anza and McClellan then it moved around 2014 up to the intersection of McClellan and Foothill (heading into Steven's Canyon). They expanded there with the addition of the old small shopping center as a vintage storage and work area (There was a lot of very cool stuff in the back area). They lost the lease at this location in ~2021, and moved to their final location on De Anza near Prospect, where they stayed for about year and then lost that lease. They did some final selling of parts last year from a location off Lawrence and Central in Sunnyvale. Mike |
hey SwimmerMike thanks for adding that last bit ! the changing market and high price of retail floor space is what ultimately did CBS in
there is an aggressive push by the big brands now to capture the D2C market. I note with interest that Specialized opened a retail outlet in Los Gatos, right across the street from Mike's bike shop which is one of the last high end shops still operating in the Bay Area. a clear attempt to put them out of business. Specialized went into that location, paid the current tenant to break their lease, and opened up a storefront. Cut throat dog eat dog environment now. Sadly hurts hard working small business owners.the most market dominance and price control is the objective /markp https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...99c2cb128d.jpg |
Originally Posted by mpetry912
(Post 23154775)
I note with interest that Specialized opened a retail outlet in Los Gatos, right across the street from Mike's bike shop which is one of the last high end shops still operating in the Bay Area.
a clear attempt to put them out of business. Specialized went into that location, paid the current tenant to break their lease, and opened up a storefront. Cut throat dog eat dog environment now. /markp https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...99c2cb128d.jpg Mike |
I didn't know they were going out of business yet but stopped there on the way back from Eroica 2022, looked around, got the t-shirt and some other things.
Vance was pretty busy but stopped what he was doing to find a shirt in my size. As I was leaving I realized he was having lunch, poked my head in the lunch room and asked if he wanted to see a Merz, "Jim Merz?" he asked, yep I said. He stopped eating and got up to come outside and have a look and thank me for showing it to him. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...76f559d81d.jpg |
The hand pinstriping of the paint / chrome boundary was a standard thing on Cinellis in period.
here is the "crotch" on my 1970 Special Corsa, also ex Spence Wolf. 20 miles from new on this bike Note "con dente" pedals too. /markp https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4cf443b7a7.jpg |
Bellissimo.
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As a point of comparison to show just how uniform Cinelli details weren't BITD. My blue mid-1960s SC has the remnants of world champion stripes (stickers or decals, not paint) on the fork and stays where the paint meets the chrome. This view is as good as it gets for that detail; the stickers/decals have mostly gone the "patina" route.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c37f421384.jpg it also has the remnants of white lug lining, best seen now on the BB hanger. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...37e51a71a7.jpg My since-repainted silver mid-1960s SC, by comparison, had no "socks" on the stays and no lug lining. I never had the original fork, so I can't say whether it had chrome or, if it did, what if any demarcations it had betwixt chrome and paint |
Holy blast from the past!
My family relocated to the South SF Bay Area in 1982 from Texas. I had worked at a bike shop in Dallas for a few years as a "grunt" and ended up looking for a weekend job in the winter of 1982. I got pretty tired of the same old same old bike shops and wanted to work in a more "elevated" door and developed a sort of selection or litmus test for a shop "worthy" of this 17year-old bike rat's talents! The test was simple. I'd walk into a shop and ask for a Campy record brake adjustment ferrule o-ring...if recollection serves, it's part #2002. If a shop could order them, OK, one point, if it had them in inventory, 2 points and I'd consider working for them. I had no joy searching in the the Los Gatos, Saratoga, Cupertino area had that part. Then, on a rainy winter Saturday, my dad and I stumbled into Cupertino Bike Shop....in Santa Clara next to a Ben Franks hot dog shop. I walked in, looked around for a bit in amazement, and was approached by a super pleasant, skinny, redheaded man who asked if he could be of assistance...I said, "Yes, do you have Campy part number 2002?". He replied with "Sure do! How man do you need?!" He then turned around, pointed to a petroium blue parts cabinet and said "we have about every Nuovo and Super Record small part available!". I coughed, my dad let out a laugh and the sales guy looked at us oddly. That guy was Carter Milhaus and we had just been introduced to the parts cabinet know as CampyLand! My father ended up letting him in on my secret and the rest, as they say, is history. I ended up working at Cupertino Bike Shop until 1989 under JF Scott (RIP) and Al Budris and move with Al when he started CycleCraft. I stumbled across this thread while doing a search for Cino Cinelli and Spence Wolf....CBS was a magical place. Hi MPetry912! |
Thanks for sharing. Not a great pic, but a 1968 Cupertino Cinelli (thanks to Guy for the historical documentation from the Cupertino shop). No evidence of a downtube decal, but note the paint ring at the edge of the chrome. It's cleaning up nicely, getting the spa treatment and careful equipment choices.
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VRJAKE SWEET!!! That is a beauty . I can't remember seeing a yellow one before. A classic Cinelli is a grail bike even in today's market . Is this a new acquisition ?
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