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Pictures from our Vintage Bike Party! JVRBG

Hey guys,
Just sharing some shots from the party. A video is coming in about 9 days. We had about 35 people. Many brought bikes to show! Almost had a full house. So glad everyone came. Shared a lot of stories, bikes, drinks and food. GREAT TIME. I'm grateful that everyone came!

I included the a pic from my favorite bike. Brad brought a RICI!









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Looks like the party was great, especially with all those bikes to look at and discuss with fellow C&Vers.
I'm wondering though, if there's any way to attract the younger generations to attend such events so they eventually take over from us older C&Vers.
I tried to get my nephew who is 30 years old, interested in C&V bikes for some years already, but it's no dice with him. Anything not CF and monocoque and without disc brakes, just does not interest him at all.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Looks like the party was great, especially with all those bikes to look at and discuss with fellow C&Vers.
I'm wondering though, if there's any way to attract the younger generations to attend such events so they eventually take over from us older C&Vers.
I tried to get my nephew who is 30 years old, interested in C&V bikes for some years already, but it's no dice with him. Anything not CF and monocoque and without disc brakes, just does not interest him at all.
Old frames with modern drivetrains are what I see as the segment of c&v that captures the most interest of those 50 or younger.
And yeah I only set the bar at 50 because I am confident 70% of this forums regulars are over that age.

I don't think a downtube friction shifting road bike with narrow bars, single pivot brakes, and non-aero levers is appealing to most 40ish or younger. Or if they have one, it's really just one and is a sort of novelty alongside their modern bikes.
If the same frame has a modern Campy or Shimano drivetrain, cockpit, and wheels?...well that can bring more interest from many for sure.
...can't overcome the lack of disc brakes, but the bike will be 96% of a modern carbon rim brake road bike.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Looks like the party was great, especially with all those bikes to look at and discuss with fellow C&Vers.
I'm wondering though, if there's any way to attract the younger generations to attend such events so they eventually take over from us older C&Vers.
I tried to get my nephew who is 30 years old, interested in C&V bikes for some years already, but it's no dice with him. Anything not CF and monocoque and without disc brakes, just does not interest him at all.
Maybe if more companies still produced quality steel bikes with good components it might attract a younger generation curious as to how they compare to vintage ones. But why sell a good steel bike that'll last a lifetime when you can "shock and awe" with a 12.5lb electric shifting carbon bike that's matte-finished out like a battleship?

I think it takes age to appreciate finer things, good craftsmanship and timeless design. In about 15 years your nephew will likely be there. That and he'll figure out that carbon fiber sucks as a frame material for anyone who's not in a pro Peloton.
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Sorry I had to miss it this year, John. Looked like fun.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Looks like the party was great, especially with all those bikes to look at and discuss with fellow C&Vers.
I'm wondering though, if there's any way to attract the younger generations to attend such events so they eventually take over from us older C&Vers.
I tried to get my nephew who is 30 years old, interested in C&V bikes for some years already, but it's no dice with him. Anything not CF and monocoque and without disc brakes, just does not interest him at all.
Great question. I ride with 60 people on Thursday nights. They all know I have this collection. Maybe 2 or 3 really care. It's interesting. I know it's a lousy picture, but this is the demo that watches my videos. Very telling

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Ah, statistical confirmation, or at least evidence, of what I had already observed: This C&V thing is an old-guy sausage-fest.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Looks like the party was great, especially with all those bikes to look at and discuss with fellow C&Vers.
I'm wondering though, if there's any way to attract the younger generations to attend such events so they eventually take over from us older C&Vers.
I tried to get my nephew who is 30 years old, interested in C&V bikes for some years already, but it's no dice with him. Anything not CF and monocoque and without disc brakes, just does not interest him at all.
The aftermarket for car industry - hotrod / SEMA core is thriving on resto mods. I've seen many perfectly good original to even nice older restroration cars now redone with all the latest radical engines, susp, brakes, steering and endless types of wheels and tires.

Some are absolute top and amazing rolling mechanical art. Others less so and remind me of the era when used Porsche 911's and 356 were easily acquired for the average wage earner and lots of them got hacked with tacky fiberglass body mods. Regardless, if it makes one happy and that's their time of life to enjoy, I'm all for it.

I let a Motobecane Le Champion go a few years ago. Recently met up with the now caretaker. He rebuilt it with Shimano Ultegra STI dual control, a deep rim aluminum wheelset, including other changes. At least he's riding it.
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Originally Posted by jjhabbs
Great question. I ride with 60 people on Thursday nights. They all know I have this collection. Maybe 2 or 3 really care. It's interesting. I know it's a lousy picture, but this is the demo that watches my videos. Very telling

John
You know- there are at least some 25-34yo watching your show! So there are some younger people who admire the timeless beauty of C&V bikes
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Is that Elwood in the Faema jersey? I recall him from the wonderful 2019 gathering....



Glad that this gathering turned out so well too! Looks like you all had a good time.

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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Old frames with modern drivetrains are what I see as the segment of c&v that captures the most interest of those 50 or younger.
Hey, that's where I live. The vast majority of my miles are on old lugged steel with Campy 10sp triple drivetrains. If it weren't for Eroica and now Cino, that would probably account for all my miles.

FWIW, I'm 66, just at very, very beginning stages of the "this growing old thing is not for sissies" parade.
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Looks like a great time!
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Originally Posted by jjhabbs
I know it's a lousy picture, but this is the demo that watches my videos. Very telling

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Of course. It's the folks who remember that era of bikes when growing up and now likely own them (or want to) again. Not to say that era bikes won't be loved by another generation when they grow older, but right now it makes complete sense.

And FWIW, I don't ever remember giving youtube my age?
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Looks like the party was great, especially with all those bikes to look at and discuss with fellow C&Vers.
I'm wondering though, if there's any way to attract the younger generations to attend such events so they eventually take over from us older C&Vers.
I tried to get my nephew who is 30 years old, interested in C&V bikes for some years already, but it's no dice with him. Anything not CF and monocoque and without disc brakes, just does not interest him at all.
Stop hoarding 10+ bikes.
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Originally Posted by tkm
And FWIW, I don't ever remember giving youtube my age?
Hint - who owns youtube?
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It was a great event John thanks for hosting us. Lots of great bikes, some brands I've never seen in person and one I'm not sure I ever heard of, Tarrot? is that right? A '60s french bike.

That little white and Red Allegro caught my eye for some reason. It wasn't super fancy but it just had great curb appeal. The Rigi loaded with all that fancy weight weenie stuff was very impressive. Then that XXXX XXXX that showed up was a huge surprise. Unfortunately I didn't take many pics. Lilith really came through in the bike transporter department.

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On the topic of modern components on older frames, I am perfectly happy with vintage derailleurs and non-indexed shifting, either downtube or barcon, but I do draw the line at brakes and safety, and I do not apologize for dual-pivot Shimano sidepulls and aero brake levers on the Bianchi.
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy
Is that Elwood in the Faema jersey? I recall him from the wonderful 2019 gathering....



Glad that this gathering turned out so well too! Looks like you all had a good time.

Steve in Peoria
​​​​​​ Looks like a nice RRB!
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​​​​​​ Looks like a nice RRB!
Good eyes!



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Originally Posted by repechage
Someone cue up on the turntable-
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I'd have to bring my own "Marrakesh Express" and "Suite Judy Blueyes?" Queen's "I want to ride my bicycle!"

Didn't John Lennon write a song about cycling?

I always thought there should be some songs about riiding the Lake Front Path. When the weather warms up I should drive over and ride it for a week few times to generate ideas, to mix with my memories from 40 to 60 years ago! Also include Sheridan Road round trip Rogers Park to Lake Forest.
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Originally Posted by repechage
Someone cue up on the turntable-
Garden Party by John Fogerty
I'd have to bring my own "Marrakesh Express" and "Suite Judy Blueyes?" Queen's "I want to ride my bicycle!"

Didn't John Lennon write a song about cycling?

I always thought there should be some songs about riiding the Lake Front Path. When the weather warms up I should drive over and ride it for a week few times to generate ideas, to mix with my memories from 40 to 60 years ago! Also include Sheridan Road round trip Rogers Park to Lake Forest.
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On the topic of modern components on older frames, I am perfectly happy with vintage derailleurs and non-indexed shifting, either downtube or barcon, but I do draw the line at brakes and safety, and I do not apologize for dual-pivot Shimano sidepulls and aero brake levers on the Bianchi.
I agree, though I find no concern with dual pivot Campy sidepulls, save occasional tire to arm clearance issues. But I'm also not married to 700c with 40mm tires.
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