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"Why me?" The 1994 Stumpjunker.

Old 05-30-24, 07:55 PM
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It's quite the project. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the confluence of suspension forks and southern Florida. The picture in my head when reading the thread title was much more like bikemig's images.

Love the paint and resourcefulness behind the build. I'd hang onto that Fisher though. It makes any other bike within a quarter mile look great.
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You haven't seen time wasted until you've seen what I'm doing with LS-to-TH350/400 crank-to-torque converter spacers and abnormally narrow kiddie bottom brackets.

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I don't know if this is going to work. Yet. I have to clearance the downtube vent hole in the bottom bracket to make enough room for the crank to slide in.

The other green Cannondale Trail 20 below it is also slated for this modification, if it works - but I digress.

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It's quite the project. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the confluence of suspension forks and southern Florida. The picture in my head when reading the thread title was much more like bikemig's images.
Love the paint and resourcefulness behind the build. I'd hang onto that Fisher though. It makes any other bike within a quarter mile look great.
Suspension forks are here for the same reason they still exist on Wal-Mart junkers: The 1970's brought about the road-bike-shaped-object, and the 1980's put the nail in the coffin by turning the entire US bicycle market into ATBs for about 30 years. "A three speed? No, we don't have those, sir. We only have 'active leisure' all terrain bikes."

The ATB craze left in its wake a bajillion mid-90's Rockhoppers around South Florida. Stumpjumpers less so, because the people who were buying these ill-suited bikes were not taking them on anything more serious than shoddy municipal dirt trails. They had no reason to justify anything else - hence, Rockhoppers.

Thankfully, a lot has changed in the last 10 years; the average person can even come across a normal IGH bike at a bike shop without specifically seeking one.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
No need, I founded the organization.

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Ah, makes sense now. I always wondered who the annonymous founder was who always ended all their e-newsletters with the phrase 'Why Do I Like Raleighs So Much?'
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I'm going to give these O-ring style seals from Amazon (https://amzn.to/4e4axV5) a try.

1" ID, 1-3/8" OD, 3/16" width. Provided they don't want to roll out of their spot, the struts should keep them in place - and the bushings too.




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They. Freaking. Work.






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Nice to have a triumph! Take the win!
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Nice to have a triumph! Take the win!
I absolutely will. Especially now that I've discovered that the fork has all of 40mm of travel

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It tried to beat me yesterday and tonight. The fork seemed to be off center; found one dropout bent just enough to affect installation. I still don't trust that the brake bridge is perfectly flat.

Then the crown race did not want to fit. And the cassette skipped. Another used replacement cassette skipped. I'm wondering whether the (used replacement) chain is the culprit - but the cassettes are old enough to be so as well.

Haven't even adjusted the saddle. It looks stupid, but I'm just glad to be at this point with it.













The plus point? It looks good.

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The Tange forks look a lot better now.





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She done.





















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I bet that frame is in the low 2000-ish gram range.

Ditto on the fork



Job well done!
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
I bet that frame is in the low 2000-ish gram range.

Ditto on the fork

Job well done!
The fork is sufficiently heavy, though not as much as you might think. The stanchion/crown assembly is steel, but the lowers are two pieces of cast aluminum bonded to an aluminum tube, so they're not egregiously over the top - it doesn't feel as boat anchory as a Wal-Mart fork, or even a cheap hybrid fork.

I'll weigh the mess if I can remember to do so

By the way, you might appreciate this from the ad copy:

Is it mint? No.
Does it have trail scars? Yes.
Is the Tange Struts fork barely effective? Naturally.
Does it look awesome? Heck yea!
Not mentioned: Is it uncomfortable AF.

Does the old fashioned MTB riding position predispose one's weight distribution over the bike further forward than it should be? Yes. Testing to find out why the small cog was popping (it was too much tension on the B-pivot screw), in particular, felt downright suicidal. While popping on the small cog is always unnerving, it's not that bad to expect and brace for it on North Road-bend uprights or drops. On this thing, it felt as if the loss of resistance on the pedals would fling me off the saddle over the bars. I can't recall when I've ridden a more dangerous-feeling bike.

I can't be sure, but I wonder if some of the "bikes are dangerous" narratives today are not entirely associated with vehicular cycling, but are partially associated with '90s MTBs. Put someone unskilled on one of these and they're sure to faceplant attempting a tight turn at very low speed. This would have gone hand-in-hand with the "bikes are uncomfortable" stereotype that grew out of the average person buying an MTB in the 1980's or 1990's when 3-speeds and conventional city bicycles were - for a time - eradicated from the US market.

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Looks great, excellent work, bet you enjoyed the ride?
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Originally Posted by joesch
Looks great, excellent work, bet you enjoyed the ride?
The experience of building something out of my usual wheelhouse was exceptionally fun.

As for how it rides - not particularly. The 1980-90's MTB riding position has never agreed with me.

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