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Old 05-20-24, 07:32 PM
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That's too much. I mean, don't kid yourself that you're gonna get away with spending less than $500 for the whole groupset, but $414 for a beat up set of STIs and derailleurs? Feh. Check Ebay's Sold listings. The STIs will be the most expensive parts, but you should be able to get FD-7400 and RD-7402 for under $50 each in good condition. BR-7403, the pair for less than $70. FC-7400s for <100. FC-7410 for >100.

Ebay's sold listings are your best friend here. They'll tell you what people have been paying for things in what condition. They can help you figure out what to offer, if the seller is taking offers. And sometimes, if you just look at a listing, without even adding it to your watchlist, you'll get an offer from the seller. But in your place, I'd spend a couple hours on the sold listings, and figure out how much you're willing to pay for each part. And don't forget shipping - sometimes it's ridiculously high, on a listing that looks cheap otherwise!
Thank you. I will do that.
I am in nor hurry so I will just hang around on the CV sales and buy stuff as it pops up...id rather spend the money with yall anyway.

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That's too much. I mean, don't kid yourself that you're gonna get away with spending less than $500 for the whole groupset, but $414 for a beat up set of STIs and derailleurs? Feh. Check Ebay's Sold listings. The STIs will be the most expensive parts, but you should be able to get FD-7400 and RD-7402 for under $50 each in good condition. BR-7403, the pair for less than $70. FC-7400s for <100. FC-7410 for >100.

Ebay's sold listings are your best friend here. They'll tell you what people have been paying for things in what condition. They can help you figure out what to offer, if the seller is taking offers. And sometimes, if you just look at a listing, without even adding it to your watchlist, you'll get an offer from the seller. But in your place, I'd spend a couple hours on the sold listings, and figure out how much you're willing to pay for each part. And don't forget shipping - sometimes it's ridiculously high, on a listing that looks cheap otherwise!
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I was just peeping that.
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Holy cow. Do that.
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Holy cow. Do that.
believe me, I considered it. The dive into this world of C&V bikes has been an exercise in restraint to say the least and I don't need anymore debt right now. Someone else will get to enjoy those parts but atleast I am learning what is and is not a good deal for when my time comes.
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It's not worth going into debt to buy a bike unless it enables employment or other kind of financial gain such as saving money on transportation.
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It's not worth going into debt to buy a bike unless it enables employment or other kind of financial gain such as saving money on transportation.
agreed. I was able to justify thr last purchases as they do save me gas and wear and tear on the family vehicle and also let's me leave said vehicle with my wife so she isn't stuck at home while I am at work. They afford me exercise for my body and mind, and tinkering on the SLE has been the best thing to happen to my mental health in a long time....the vintage stuff is a type of therapy to me but I am not going to turn it into "shopping therapy".......yet
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Originally Posted by Strawbunyan
agreed. I was able to justify thr last purchases as they do save me gas and wear and tear on the family vehicle and also let's me leave said vehicle with my wife so she isn't stuck at home while I am at work. They afford me exercise for my body and mind, and tinkering on the SLE has been the best thing to happen to my mental health in a long time....the vintage stuff is a type of therapy to me but I am not going to turn it into "shopping therapy".......yet
wish lists will do for now
Yep. If you read my "Hole In The Head" thread, you know I had the bits lying around. I would not have started a new project if I didn't, but the work that goes into a project is indeed therapeutic, for me, anyway.
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I thought my wife was the sane one in our relationship.....I showed her some bar tape I wanted to get


And her first words after "wow, I really like that" were..."you should get a new bike, a maroon one, to put that tape on so it matches"
I am living with an enabler..here I am feeling weird about building a bike around d levers and she's got me building one around bar tape....im not taking it to the level for myself so, ill get the tape and i guess she is getting a new bike one of these days. Hahahahhaha

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My spouse was also a big enabler for me for a while. My fixing and flipping hobby started because I got a few bikes cheap at a police auction. For my birthday, she cleared out a room in our basement so I could have a workshop.

A few years later, she got an inheritance and bought a house in a rural area of New York State. I complained that I never have the bike tools I need when I need them. She said I should buy one of each for each place which I have now nearly done. I'm fine with owning only one wheel truing stand and things like that.

[MENTION=94771]ascherer[/MENTION], you should tell us what your lovely wife has said to you.
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[MENTION=94771]ascherer[/MENTION], you should tell us what your lovely wife has said to you.
Oh, where do I start?
I am blessed. My wife encourages my behavior, and I hers. Most of the time, when I mumble something like, "I saw an interesting frame/bike online..." her response is something like, "Did you buy it yet? You deserve it."
That said, I'm up to seven myself, 3 for her, 3 "guest" bikes, a Rockhopper I saved from the transfer station and a few orphans. She'd be correct if she wondered what I would do with another. The gaps in my fleet are getting smaller. Having said that, something is likely to turn up, but I can't imagine what!
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I thought I might have built a bike or two around components, but after thinking about it, no, I built all my bikes around framesets.....
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Originally Posted by Strawbunyan
believe me, I considered it. The dive into this world of C&V bikes has been an exercise in restraint to say the least and I don't need anymore debt right now. Someone else will get to enjoy those parts but atleast I am learning what is and is not a good deal for when my time comes.
One of the things that you can always think about is "it's going to come around again." Sometimes it doesn't.

Yes- I've built a couple of parts hoards and put them on bikes... Around 2016 I discovered this guy who made/makes 10 speed SIS indexing rings for Suntour shifters. That means being able to use Suntour Accushift shifters with regular Shimano SIS derailleurs and Shimano 10 speed cassettes. That's awesome. For downtube shifters or even bar ends... not such a big deal- but Command Shifters- that's a BIG deal. I built a bike up with those and was IMMEDIATELY in love. So a few years later I started a build based on those and a Suntour XC Pro crankset and picked out my dream components.





My intent was to get all this stuff and get a Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen with cantilevers and build it with this stuff. I ended up just rebuilding a bike I already owned.
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[MENTION=174646]The Golden Boy[/MENTION], may we see the completed bike?
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[MENTION=174646]The Golden Boy[/MENTION], may we see the completed bike?
Sure, if you twist my arm!




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I think this guy built his bike around the 25th Anniversary Dura Ace group:



This may be the nicest looking bike I have ever seen.
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I have had a very clean RockShox Paris-Roubaix SL road suspension fork awaiting the rest of its future bicycle for at least five years. Even won a spot prize service voucher several years ago that paid for its full rebuild. I really should sell/attempt to sell it, but subconsciously believe a suitable frame with no fork will eventuate.

I wouldn’t want a Gilbert Duclos-Lasalle or Andrew Tchmil replica, finding the frame and parts would be too hard, rather a period-approximate concoction of race-proved esoterica.

Because this bicycle will probably never exist it will have Delta brakes, Mavic starfish crankset, Time pedals (for Carnac shoes obvs.) and Superbe Pro indexing. Also the spare pair of Record Strada 28h tubular rims that have been languishing in the garage for as long as the fork.
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I sold the super cool parts I should have built bikes around
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Can you build a bike surrounding a set of barrel adjusters? Not really but, I had these cool Serotta barrel adjusters that I had purchased to replace some crappy ones on my titanium Veritas but they are not M3., probably M4. So the cool adjusters are in my little exotic bike hardware cabinet. Fast forward some years and I couldn't resist picking up a Serotta CSI in my size. These have the barrel adjusters brazed onto the lower head tube lug.
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I think this guy built his bike around the 25th Anniversary Dura Ace group:



This may be the nicest looking bike I have ever seen.
Looks like my size, too.....
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I forgot about this build, started with a Surly Dingle Cog



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Originally Posted by Strawbunyan
...does it make sense to build a bike around the components I want? and get the frame last or am I going about this backwards?......
I tend to think that yes, you're going about it backwards.

The frame (and to a lesser extend, the wheels and tires) defines the character of the bike - how it rides, handles, and the overall feel of the bike. Everything else just bolts on in order to make the bike work. Give me a great frame with lesser components, over the the other way around, any day.
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All my road bike and mountain bike projects are built around components. It might be expensive but at least I know what I want and always buy the top of the range. It can be a fun and lenghty process but at the end you reward yourself with something high end and truely unique.
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I tend to think that yes, you're going about it backwards.

The frame (and to a lesser extend, the wheels and tires) defines the character of the bike - how it rides, handles, and the overall feel of the bike. Everything else just bolts on in order to make the bike work. Give me a great frame with lesser components, over the the other way around, any day.
I agree partially. The way the bike gives feedback from the road is usually -- not always -- determined by the tires more than the frame. The way you feel interacting with the bike is determined largely by your position/fit and the choice of contact points, i.e. handlebars, grips/tape, saddle, pedals. The frame determines handling and transmits a bit of the road information.

The reason the choice of frame is important is that it is the most expensive part of the bike, and it's difficult to change. If you're building a bike, once you choose the frame, you're pretty much stuck with it. And changing the frame might or might not be considered having the same bike. If you move all components from one frame to another, is it the same bike with a frame change, or is it a different bike? That's a bit of a philosophical question, and both answers have merit.
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... If you move all components from one frame to another, is it the same bike with a frame change, or is it a different bike? That's a bit of a philosophical question, and both answers have merit.
I refer to all my bikes by what the frame is. I have several bikes that no longer have ANY of the original parts (maybe the headset) but I still refer to them as my "1993 Rockhopper" or "1989 Trek 970".
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