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Aardwolf 10-10-25 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 23623732)
This thread has been a bad influence on me. I haven't got back to shooting film but it did motivate me to dig my old Dimage Scan Dual IV out of storage. I haven't fired it up for at least a dozen years. Surprisingly with some help I was able to get it up and running on both my older photo editing desktop and my Windows 10 Laptop. I'm having to relearn this all again but I've started working through my decades worth of old slides archive. Since I've got my old light box out also I'm going to do even more experimenting. Going to see if I can use my old Contax bellows on my digital mirrorless camera to recapture the slides better than the old dedicated scanner. Some initial attempts so it's doable. Of course all of this is making me appreciate the quality and ease of today's digital camera's even more, LOL!

Back in the day i had some film scanners, then went fully digital.
Some years later and I've inherited the family film/camera archive.
I found a Cannon 100mm/f2.8 macro lens and a light box is pretty good for capturing slide and large format film.
Plus I've stored the originals in folders so I could 'scan' them again if I had to.

My Grandad in 1934 (120 negative)

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c1d0bf3f1a.jpg




cycleheimer 10-11-25 09:06 AM

Kodak Retina Reflex (Type 025) Made in Germany
 
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5ed9a44989.jpg

25.4TPI 10-15-25 08:01 AM

I’ve got a thing for old, nothing fancy rangefinders (and Thomas McGuane novels). The Yashica Electro 35 was inherited (closet find), the others acquired. The ME1 is very light and often comes along on backpacking trips. Fits in a hip pocket just right. Nikon is just plain reliable, and the Soviet Leica knockoff could use some fiddling.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8eb248d6e.jpeg


Pompiere 10-15-25 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by 25.4TPI (Post 23626535)
I’ve got a thing for old, nothing fancy rangefinders (and Thomas McGuane novels). The Yashica Electro 35 was inherited (closet find), the others acquired. The ME1 is very light and often comes along on backpacking trips. Fits in a hip pocket just right. Nikon is just plain reliable, and the Soviet Leica knockoff could use some fiddling.

Years ago, when digital cameras were starting to take over, I got bitten by the rangefinder bug. Never owned anything fancy, just a lot of simple fixed-lens cameras because they were cheap and plentiful. Most of them required some repair and adjustment, which I handled myself, thanks to the internet. I got pretty good at calibrating the rangefinder to properly focus the lens. I started with a Petri 7s and gradually added more to the mix, including a Yashica Electro 35 GSN, Minolta Hi-Matic 9, Argus C3, Kodak 35RF, B-A Auto EE, Olympus ECR, Canon A35F, and Olympus XA. The XA could slip into a jersey pocket and survive the fall when I missed the opening.:twitchy:

dweenk 10-15-25 12:04 PM

Great shots of girls and women with flowers.

Aardwolf 10-16-25 07:02 AM

Rats, I was forced to go looking for my Olympus XA 2.
Not a rangefinder but I did realy like it in the late 70's and I've still got it somewhere.
But that means I've got a second hidden camera stash ... ooooh
Went looking and I haven't found it yet, but I did find something made in Sept 1960:

My Avometer from GEC Hirst Research Centre (my first job)
I may have to get it working again :)

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1a2becbf2c.jpg

jamesdak 11-02-25 09:18 AM

Dang....

Found yet another old body I had missed earlier. A mint looking Minolta X-7. Which in honesty, isn't an earlier version of the Minolta X-7A I also have still.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...268812d089.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4d046adf0f.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a2ac008e4f.jpg
The eye piece was in the box with the camera but I'm sure doesn't belong on this one.

Aardwolf 11-04-25 01:34 PM

After 3 weeks I finally remembered where camera stash #2 was, must be getting old or something.
That was really starting to bug me.

Not quite so old, but these were all bought new by me.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...721f690711.jpg

Back: row
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1998 Fuji MX-700 digital: 1280 x 1024 pixels
2005 Fuji Finepix F11 digital 6.3 Mpixels
2004 Canon 20D digital 8.2 Mpixel
.
Middle row
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Olympus mju-II
Samsung Fino 115S
Canon EOS 300
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Front
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Olympus XA2 + flash
.


repechage 11-04-25 03:51 PM

my camera is a Canon T90
all hail Luigi Colani

PhilFo 11-04-25 04:12 PM

Holy cow an MJU-II. Those things command stupid high prices in working condition!
I always loved the XA series. I think I've owned maybe three or four of them over the years. Given all but one original XA away.
Phil

Aardwolf 11-04-25 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by PhilFo (Post 23638385)
Holy cow an MJU-II. Those things command stupid high prices in working condition!
Phil

Sheesh, I wasn't aware of that.
Ebay (uk): around £200
Not bad for a 1997 plastic camera.
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/55...for-what-it-is

And for your amusement:
Taken with Fuji MX-700 at a Jessops photography shop corner of Oxford Street and Totenham Court road (their serious shop).
Date: 15th August 1999
(full size)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d96e33baa5.jpg

ShannonM 11-04-25 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by PhilFo (Post 23638385)
Holy cow an MJU-II. Those things command stupid high prices in working condition!
I always loved the XA series. I think I've owned maybe three or four of them over the years. Given all but one original XA away.
Phil

I have its purse-camera little sister, the LT-1. Fun little piece. I don't think any of the LTs had the f/2.8 that some of the Mjus did, but the 35/3.5 does not suck. (I think it's the 2.8 ones that get the silly money, neh?)

Mine rides in my stem bag as my stays-with-the-bike camera, a role to which it is admirably suited. The smooth, rounded shape and pleather cover fit easily into the bag and come smoothly out of it. Once you've turned it on with the switch, the lens-covering flap works as a standby, so you don't have to remember to turn it on mid-ride, and leaving it on doesn't kill the battery.

The slightly slow, slightly wide lens pairs really well with the kinds of film that it was designed for, (Consumer color films in the 200-400 range,) taking the kinds of pictures in the kinds of conditions that you take on bike rides. (Landscapes, people you just met, and random crap you found on / in the road, in whatever light was the light where you were.)

Great ERC. (Every Ride Camera)

--Shannon

Aardwolf 11-04-25 05:22 PM

Looks like I could be rich


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c52635431c.jpg

xiaoman1 11-30-25 07:04 PM

Not CV but the lenses are......
The other day I bought this Sony A7 for Jade and this adapter arrived today....It allows her to use her "L" glass on the Sony.
Sony now seems to be the camera of choice for under 30 somethings.....:p
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5e03445ca2.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...45869099f7.png
I see no need to toss out the "L" glass for stuff that costs more, often weighs more and is larger....and may or may not be much better image wise.:D
Best, Ben

Doc Sharptail 11-30-25 07:36 PM

https://i.imgur.com/fnMwt5g.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iegUxln.jpg

Kiron 28mm f 2.

https://i.imgur.com/eJeH7MJ.jpg

On D-810 here. 1/400 sec at f5.6, ISO 200.
It's a recent acquisition, and still forming opinions. Not sure if the camera rates C&V, but the lens sure does. Classic rendering works well on digital.

https://i.imgur.com/3VjfA1b.jpg
At f5.6 here and ISO 400.

https://i.imgur.com/xqtxgYi.jpg

Center crop of above image.



-D.S.

ShannonM 11-30-25 07:53 PM

MC Rokkor 28/2.0?

I had one, it's still in San Diego... photokid has used it. Mine had the yellowed, radio-decayed coating, so b&w only. Other than that, a great hunk o' glass.

--Shannon

jamesdak 11-30-25 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by ShannonM (Post 23653332)
MC Rokkor 28/2.0?

I had one, it's still in San Diego... photokid has used it. Mine had the yellowed, radio-decayed coating, so b&w only. Other than that, a great hunk o' glass.

--Shannon

You can fix that. Exposing it to UV light will clear the yellowing up. Some do it by sitting it in sunlight without the caps for a few weeks.

I'm actually "cooking" one of my Pentax's right now for the same Thorium induced yellowing. I'm just using a UVA/UVB reptile light to do it quicker. Just remember, UV is sort of bad for you. I've got mine set up in the tub in my guest bathroom.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be9f62901e.jpg
Initial setup until I realized I needed to play it safe and moved it to the bathroom

ShannonM 11-30-25 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 23653419)
You can fix that. Exposing it to UV light will clear the yellowing up. Some do it by sitting it in sunlight without the caps for a few weeks.

That works, but it can only get rid of so much. I did the window thing, and Photokid has done the hard UV thing. From what he says, it works, but only so well, and only for so long. Sometimes, they're too far gone.

S'ok... they're great in b&w, which is most of what I shoot.

--Shannon

Doc Sharptail 12-01-25 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by ShannonM (Post 23653332)
MC Rokkor 28/2.0?
--Shannon

Kiron 28/2.0

Had a Rokkor-X 50 f2 and hated the plastic internals~ similar to the nylon bearing systems used in nikon series E lenses.

-D.S.

jamesdak 12-01-25 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by ShannonM (Post 23653431)
That works, but it can only get rid of so much. I did the window thing, and Photokid has done the hard UV thing. From what he says, it works, but only so well, and only for so long. Sometimes, they're too far gone.

S'ok... they're great in b&w, which is most of what I shoot.

--Shannon

I've never heard of anyone not being able to restore a Thorium lens. Sometimes the yellowing is from other reasons, possibly even the cement used between lens elements. Those case can be an issue for sure. Once restored you have to try and avoid leaving it in the dark all the time or it will revert back.

Fortunately for me it's not really and issue since I no longer bother with film. Easy fix with digital in post processing. Still, I want it "right" so I'm cooking 'er. ;)

jamesdak 12-01-25 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Doc Sharptail (Post 23653486)
Kiron 28/2.0

Had a Rokkor-X 50 f2 and hated the plastic internals~ similar to the nylon bearing systems used in nikon series E lenses.

-D.S.

I've got some Kiron made Vivitar Series One lenses and man are they good. Kiron has made a lot of good lenses over the years.

Doc Sharptail 12-01-25 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 23653556)
I've got some Kiron made Vivitar Series One lenses and man are they good. Kiron has made a lot of good lenses over the years.

I've had a couple of vivitar branded Kirons before. Some of the earlier versions were prone to haze.
As for the 28/2, there's a bit of edge distortion there.
I think the Tamron 28/2.5 is slightly better optically corrected, but I still haven't done enough with the Kiron to be fully informed.
Contrast, and center sharpness shown in the Kiron samples above are indeed excellent.

-D.S.

Doc Sharptail 12-02-25 10:55 PM

https://i.imgur.com/S6rFgrC.jpg

Zoom Nikkor 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s shown mounted on chrome F2 body here.

https://i.imgur.com/kZsai6h.jpg

It makes images like this at the wide end. At f5.6 and ISO 400 at 28mm here.

https://i.imgur.com/LTpDGsf.jpg

Center crop of above image.

-D.S.



CV-6 12-03-25 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Doc Sharptail (Post 23654924)

Zoom Nikkor 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s on chrome F2 body here.

It makes images like this at the wide end. At f5.6 and ISO 400 at 28mm here.

https://i.imgur.com/LTpDGsf.jpg

Center crop of above image.

-D.S.

Curious what film you were shooting as that is a pretty tight crop and from what I can see, nice and sharp.

Doc Sharptail 12-03-25 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by CV-6 (Post 23655148)
Curious what film you were shooting as that is a pretty tight crop and from what I can see, nice and sharp.

It is not film, as discussed earlier in the thread. 36 m/p D-810 with C&V film era manual focus lenses.

Just about fully phased out of the film side of things. I'll finish and process the roll in the F2, and I think that will be it~ which is entirely cost related.
I'll have to mention the camera in each post.

-D.S.

CV-6 12-03-25 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by Doc Sharptail (Post 23655163)
It is not film, as discussed earlier in the thread. 36 m/p D-810 with C&V film era manual focus lenses.

Just about fully phased out of the film side of things. I'll finish and process the roll in the F2, and I think that will be it~ which is entirely cost related.
I'll have to mention the camera in each post.

-D.S.

Didn't weigh through the whole thread and did not see any mention of digital in that particular post. Mea Culpa

ascherer 12-04-25 07:59 AM

My youngest (30 next month) has been exploring photography for a few years and is gently nagging me to let him try my medium format cameras. I pulled my 1000F out to check it's workability (a few fussy bits, normal stuff for a roughly 70-year old camera) and felt tension when I turned the film winder. Turns out there was a roll of Vericolor HC in it. There's a lab 4 blocks south of my office, I'm about to walk over and drop it off for developing.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...274a72f233.jpg

Doc Sharptail 12-04-25 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by ascherer (Post 23655650)
My youngest (30 next month) has been exploring photography for a few years and is gently nagging me to let him try my medium format cameras. I pulled my 1000F out to check it's workability (a few fussy bits, normal stuff for a roughly 70-year old camera) and felt tension when I turned the film winder. Turns out there was a roll of Vericolor HC in it. There's a lab 4 blocks south of my office, I'm about to walk over and drop it off for developing.

Let us know what you get back for prints: scans, or actual optical/chemical prints.

The 'Blad stuff retains value better than some others. Not sure about the 1000F as I know very little about them. Grail for years was a 500 CM. It's just as well I didn't get in, and went Bronica SQ-A instead. Did see a Mamiya C-330 listed some where for over 1200 english pounds, so I guess anything is possible. Hasselblad is still at it with a very high end digital, seemingly based on their medium format framework.

-D.S.

jamesdak 12-04-25 09:19 AM

I just can't come to terms with firing up my old Mamiya 645 anymore. Even with Velvia being available for it. I even picked up a holder for the 120 filmstrips so that I could use my old lightbox and digital camera to digitize my old shots from it. Still seems like the digital shots out of either my Canon 5DsR or the Leica SL2 give me a better image. Still, I have been contemplating getting some film and taking it out. Maybe I'll do that next year when I start road tripping throughout the western backroads.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...88166f6487.jpg
Old slide shot from the Mamiya reshot with my Leica SL camera as I tested a setup for digitizing my old medium format archive.

ascherer 12-04-25 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Doc Sharptail (Post 23655659)
Let us know what you get back for prints: scans, or actual optical/chemical prints.

The 'Blad stuff retains value better than some others. Not sure about the 1000F as I know very little about them. Grail for years was a 500 CM. It's just as well I didn't get in, and went Bronica SQ-A instead. Did see a Mamiya C-330 listed some where for over 1200 english pounds, so I guess anything is possible. Hasselblad is still at it with a very high end digital, seemingly based on their medium format framework.

-D.S.

I just dropped the roll off at LTI Lightside lab. The aromas of the chemistry and emulsions, and the stacks of processed work to be delivered brought me back to my analog Art Director days. I asked them to process the roll and leave it uncut. I have no idea what's there, if anything. If there are images, I'll put the film on a light table before I leave the office and grab some iPhone shots as proofs.

I "became" a photographer a few years before I "became" a cyclist. A family friend was a pro, shooting weddings and events. She was a huge inspiration. I learned B&W printing at her house when I was maybe 10-11 years old, and she gifted me a full darkroom setup when I turned 13. I bought a 1000F from her when I was 16, at the same time I bought my first high-end bike. Hasselblads are like licorice, you either love them or avoid them. Our pro friend didn't like it, so it was pretty much NOS when I bought it. From the first roll of film it was magically intuitive in my hands and opened up my sense of visual expression and composition. It was stolen in the mid-70s, and I replaced it with this one in the late 70s. My wife has a 500C from back in the day. If we had 5 figures (each) to drop we'd buy digital backs for them.


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