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Help identifying English front hub
Hi the I have recently acquired a set of 700 sprint wheels with wooden rims
they seen in ok condition and am planning on trying them out on my 1939 Evans this summer the front hub is only identified by a made in England stamping no other obvious markings Here’s a few pictures to help with the head scratching. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2a0a92e84.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e11cff4e7.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1232e7b89.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...767e20ad3.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...946519062.jpeg hope this helps if you need any dimensions etc let me know all the best from a snowy Aberdeen |
Airlite small flange?
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Not Airlite. Different flanges, no BH marking. Not BSA because they put the three crossed rifles on nearly every single part. I've noticed Bayliss Wiley, Brampton, and Chater Lea all to have a few bits which only have "Made in England" stamped. My spidey sense is telling me these may be Constrictor hubs. What rims are they? Good luck!
Phil |
Very odd to see radial spoking on a wooden rim. I wonder if the hub is the same vintage as the rim, or if it is later ?
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Originally Posted by vintage cellar
(Post 23674667)
Very odd to see radial spoking on a wooden rim. I wonder if the hub is the same vintage as the rim, or if it is later ?
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ID for hub
It’s an odd set up not seen radial lacing on a wood rim in person myself
iv had a few more modern radial wheels in the early 90’s pace RC200 with a greasable front hub and a set of nukeproof atoms Radial was used on 30’s race and road bikes not seen a pic of wooden rim yet I’ll give it a go it’s just to try something different currently set up with 700c chaterlea front and SA FM rear hubs thanks for the input so far folks |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 23674671)
Are we sure it's safe to spoke it radially? Wooden rims already pose risks that most of us are unfamiliar with.
I suspect that it would be hidden by other variations inherent in the manufacture and assembly. |
I do believe that hub has been cross laced before becoming radial. See the inside from prior spoke indentations.
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Frank Bowden (of Raleigh) was very enthusiastic on a laminated wooden wheel system patented by Massachusetts banjo-maker A.C. Fairbanks. He invested a lot of money in what became a complex venture from 1893 until liquidation of 1899. Could it be a Raleigh hub?
If you want new wood rims look towards Italy, always fancied trying a pair myself! https://www.cerchioghisallo.shop/ Personally, I don't like radial much (especially on wood) and would change to tangent pattern...........but hey, that's just what I would do! Whatever you do post a picture of the wheels when they are on the bike and let us know what they ride like! |
clearly I am no expert, but the only Constrictor hubs I ever saw are stamped "Constrictor" on the center barrel "in line" with the axle, nothing around the circumference of the barrel
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The flanges are what have me thinking Constrictor, but not sure which model.
Phil |
Looks like someone else is asking the exact same question on Instagram on Vintage lightweight cycles.
"Fairbanks built rims for Constrictor. Viper model. They have a lovely profile. The rear is laced to a flip flop constrictor hub. The front hub has no markings. One rim has the Viper decal removed and on top is another decal, anyone recognise it?" |
Just checking. Is the hub axle steel and the flanges aluminium?
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Originally Posted by awac
(Post 23675682)
Just checking. Is the hub axle steel and the flanges aluminium?
The hub's centre shell doesn't look like aluminium either. |
Aluminium
The body is definitely aluminium centre and outer flanges I have tested it with a magnet
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Originally Posted by Aberdeen loon
(Post 23675750)
The body is definitely aluminium centre and outer flanges I have tested it with a magnet
But what if the barrel is Stainless Steel, not at all common but certainty could be non-magnetic? And the first SS was made in Sheffield, so still being "Made in England" is not out of line...;) |
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d93aecef67.png
Constrictor Viper hub. I don't think it is the hub in question, but it has been mentioned so good to rule it out. Can't find a clearer photo, anybody have a set? |
Originally Posted by PhilFo
(Post 23674661)
Not Airlite. Different flanges, no BH marking. Not BSA because they put the three crossed rifles on nearly every single part. I've noticed Bayliss Wiley, Brampton, and Chater Lea all to have a few bits which only have "Made in England" stamped. My spidey sense is telling me these may be Constrictor hubs. What rims are they? Good luck!
Phil Could they be Raleigh Industries? |
Originally Posted by PhilFo
(Post 23674661)
Not Airlite. Different flanges, no BH marking. Not BSA because they put the three crossed rifles on nearly every single part. I've noticed Bayliss Wiley, Brampton, and Chater Lea all to have a few bits which only have "Made in England" stamped. My spidey sense is telling me these may be Constrictor hubs. What rims are they? Good luck!
Phil Could they be Raleigh Industries? |
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