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ehallerm@gmail. 01-13-26 01:20 PM

Old Bar End Shifters
 
Hello, I have a mismatched pair of bar end shifters that I took off of my old 3x8 Marin that had been converted to drop bars. They worked well there. I now have a new/used 3x9 bike that I'd like to convert to drop bars. I believe that they are just friction. I will attach pictures. One is Raleigh, and the other is Suntour. They each say the same company name on both sides of their lever. Will the right lever work on a 9 speed? Thank you!
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Aubergine 01-13-26 01:34 PM

They are both SunTour shifters despite the Raleigh rubber cover. In my experience those old Suntour levers are great but do not pull enough cable to work with a nine speed cassette. Maybe someone else here has made them work, though - i am certain we will hear if so!

EDIT to dad tht I was always trying the Suntour shifters with a Campagnolo cassette. Maybe that explains why I was not able to get the shifters to work, as they apparently do for Shimano cassettes

jdawginsc 01-13-26 02:02 PM

I’m wondering if you can put something in the cable channel to make it slightly larger in circumference and get a bit more cable pull?

ehallerm@gmail. 01-13-26 07:12 PM

Thank you so much for your input. Can you recommend a reasonable pair of bar end shifters for a 3x9 set-up? I do not need indexed shifting. I'm used to friction, and it's less to break.

jdawginsc 01-13-26 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by ehallerm@gmail. (Post 23678363)
Thank you so much for your input. Can you recommend a reasonable pair of bar end shifters for a 3x9 set-up? I do not need indexed shifting. I'm used to friction, and it's less to break.

Microshift are nice. And not too expensive. Sometimes you can find them on ebay and they have a friction mode I think.

jdawginsc 01-13-26 07:41 PM

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...Condition=3000

A lot of good choices in the $30-50 range.

merziac 01-13-26 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by ehallerm@gmail. (Post 23678129)
Hello, I have a mismatched pair of bar end shifters that I took off of my old 3x8 Marin that had been converted to drop bars. They worked well there. I now have a new/used 3x9 bike that I'd like to convert to drop bars. I believe that they are just friction. I will attach pictures. One is Raleigh, and the other is Suntour. They each say the same company name on both sides of their lever. Will the right lever work on a 9 speed? Thank you!

I have them on my daily driver before the one I ride now, they were put on for last Eroica in Cambria CA 2023, had to go analog and left it that way.

They work great in all conditions, Campy 9 speed triple, same SunTour bar cons, fantastic.


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albrt 01-13-26 11:43 PM

I had Suntour bar end shifters with a 9 speed cassette on a bike for a while and it worked fine, but it might have just been luck that the intervals were perfect--I doubt there is much room for error. I certainly didn't do anything clever to make it work, it was just a bin build that I threw together.

oneclick 01-14-26 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by albrt (Post 23678505)
I had Suntour bar end shifters with a 9 speed cassette on a bike for a while and it worked fine, but it might have just been luck that the intervals were perfect--I doubt there is much room for error.

"Intervals" don't matter for friction shifting (which is what those shifters do).

USAZorro 01-14-26 06:50 AM

If you set everything just right it may work.

As jdawg mentioned, Mircoshift, and also Shimano both make ones that will certainly work. I have experience with the Shimano bar end shifters. They work either as friction or indexed with the turn of a d-ring.

bboy314 01-14-26 08:07 AM

As I posted in the other thread, I’ve used these up to 10 speed with no issues, using Suntour and Shimano derailleurs.

albrt 01-14-26 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by oneclick (Post 23678538)
"Intervals" don't matter for friction shifting (which is what those shifters do).

Sorry, bad use of terminology on my part, I wasn't thinking about index (because I never think about index), I was thinking about the total amount of cable pull versus the total interval from 1-9.

bboy314 01-14-26 08:56 AM

Also of note - 8-10 speed cassettes all have the same overall width, so shifter throw shouldn’t be an issue unless you’re using a SRAM 1:1 or more modern Shimano derailleur that requires more pull.

JulesCW 01-14-26 09:16 AM

I use Suntour bar ends like this on 5 of my bikes that use 9-speed cassettes. Not a problem at all. They work just fine.

Aubergine 01-14-26 09:41 AM

Another option is the Dia-Compe ENE shifters, which can pull enough cable for ten speed cassettes. At Velo Orange: https://velo-orange.com/products/dia...r-end-shifters

gearheadgeek 01-14-26 12:52 PM

Another successful 9 speed/Suntour barcon user here. PX-10 with an Ultegra rear derailleur. Shifts great.

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