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The full geometry chart for the outgoing model year is still up on the Cicli Corsa page among other places. I highly doubt it will change much if at all.

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All bets are off once we get to resellers offering complete builds with residual stock - I probably wasn’t very clear, but I guess my point was that Cinelli won’t be able to offer the Supercorsa as per the photograph in the OP.

Opinions vary, and to each their own, but to me Centaur silver is a tribute to Campagnolo’s classic polished groups, rather than a polished group in itself. Not bad, just more shiny/satin/black than Nuovo/Super/C-Record. I digress…

I gotcha'. Yes, that particular crankset hasn't been in production for a while and the new Centaur derailleurs include bits of black. I think that the Athena/Potenza group from around ten years ago were, indeed, the last of the fully polished alloy groupsets Campagnolo offered.

Thank you for this. Great numbers! ST length CTC which means it's even taller, and beautiful 73° parallel angles.

Are they still going to limit tyre clearance to a max of 25c?

I concede this is a classic bicycle and huge balloon tyres are probably best fitted to something else, but I think increasing clearances to allow for 28c would be a big improvement.

Threadless is fine on a Supercorsa, assuming you can find the right fork. There aren't many 1" forks available in SL, so carbon is often the best alternative. The Columbus Minimal works well.

On my wishlist, along with the Gran Criterium. I'd be equally happy with either.

Its great to have all these and more new classic steel choices.
I do think the Cinelli SC is the most difficult to find of the true vintage classics and I still want one, like a '71.

The quote is most famous bike. Not company.

Also, all of the arguments so far pitched are from nostalgia and entirely US centric. There is a lot of history that occured before your youth that is being ignored.

The Specialissima is a good contender. But what is it about the bike that makes it famous? What about the design is innovative? Coppi never rode one. Gimondi was at best the second fiddle of his time.

So again, what bike is more famous?

Not sure this could be written about any other manufacturer's bikes--including Bianchi.
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A fairly pointless and ill-defined statement, “the world’s most famous classic Italian racing bike”, but what the heck…

Famous for what? For being an enduring Italian racing bicycle? Or for who raced it and what they won with it? Certainly a fine and iconic classic I’d happily own and ride.

But who with a greater palmares than Gimondi raced on a Supercorsa, and what did they win? A _Supercorsa_, not another Cinelli, or Bianchi leads, with daylight second, in that respect.

If the fame of a racing bicycle is determined by the races won using it, then globally the TVT Carbon or Raleigh SBDU 753 probably outstrips the Supercorsa by some margin, unless there’s a raft of early World Championships and Grand Tours I’ve missed… a few Olympic Golds before professionals could compete for them, perhaps?

Edit - the Cinelli Supercorsa is now famous, of course, for being the Cinelli Supercorsa.

Pinarello has the most TdF wins. Should it be included in the debate?

Which Pinarello?

Cinelli’s claim, right or wrong, is for a single model, not a marque across steel, aluminium, rebranded bonded carbon, and carbon variants.

you can't just be happy Cinelli is reintroducing the SC?

This is why we can't have nice things.

Everyone that I know is in line to get one !

not .....

I am happy and don't care about marketing copy. I like the geometry and the 61cm size is probably going to fit perfectly. Looking forward to seeing more.

We are happy. 🙂

But when an entirely subjective piece of marketing puffery is submitted for debate, we are even more happy. 👍

Pinarello bcame iconic associated with Indurain IMO.

The SC is famous for the design collaboratively driven by Cinelli, Valsasina and Coppi. It is famous for innovation. Cinelli never sponsored a team, so no palmares. My point was the Specialissima, while winning races, was not the focus of the time.

Yes, this is comparing apples to oranges, but everyone knows oranges are better. 🙂

Raleigh is also eliminated because again, the statement is qualified as the most famous classic Italian racing bike. Raleigh are not Italian.

As for Pinarello. The best thing they are known for is have the worst finish.

About sums it up. Hype is king… mine is king of the hype!

Most people are fairly ignorant of bicycle models through history, let alone the niche of the niche of the niche claimed by this marketing sauce. Transpose that across the wild variation of cycling experiences and preferences around the world, and it becomes utterly pointless to frame any debate.

Personally, if we’re talking most famous bike, it would have to be what Eddie rode. But wait, which one?? Why, the orange one of course.

Thanks to this thread (and especially to RobVolz), I was inspired to do some searches and found the Official Vintage Cinelli web page.

Among other details given on that page: Japan's Olympic Committee bought Cinelli road, track, and tandem bikes for their racers for the 1964 Olympics.

Whether the Super Corsa is the "most famous" Italian race bike of all time is clearly a fraught issue.

But a strong argument could be made that Cino Cinelli was the only major Italian bike manufacturer who was as restlessly inventive as Tullio Campagnolo, and as obsessed with designing and manufacturing the most perfect products for bike racers.

That history is part of the reason that, for me, the Super Corsa is the most iconic Italian racing bike of the classic era, hands down.

But even without the history, I might feel the same. The Super Corsa has somehow always felt to me like the Platonic ideal of road bikes, ever since I first saw one roll into the bike shop where I was working in 1972..

Regarding the groupset, though not moving incredibly quickly, I am seeing a shift toward more silver components. And when Shimano and Wolf Tooth (though, Wolf Tooth is not classic nor vintage) does something, other vendors pay attention.

"We’re seeing an influx of silver components from manufacturers in recent years. From Shimano’s GRX Limited kit to now Wolf Tooth, it’s getting easier to build your bike with silver parts."

I'm of the opinion that those who catalogued bikes in 25mm actually knew what they were doing with the designs and clearances.
My french bike was awfully cramped in the rear triangle with 28's (they'll go, but just barely). Mine actually does what it was designed for better on the 25's than the 28's, but that's a whole 'nother kettle of some fairly small sardines.

-D.S.

The small sizes being currently offered might simply be leftovers from recent production. The smallest and largest sizes are usually always the slowest selling. Although in certain markets (Asia) the bell-curve is certainly different than the U.S.

The ones that were used by Big Mig were all tig welded by Dario Pegoretti using Oria, Excell and later Dedacciai Zero 18MCDV6HT steel tubings. With the case of Riis and Ullrich their Pinarello Paris bikes were made of Lens tubing (modified Dedacciai 7003 All Butted Tubing aluminium)