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Old 02-14-11, 10:12 PM
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Whew, glad to hear you didn't hack up two 900 series frames to make a terrible tandem.

Wild guess on the HKEK, 1990? You can check component codes here if you think parts are original.

Rear derailer looks a lot more like my 1991 XC-Pro stuff than my 1988 XCM stuff. Could be 1991.

ProForx doesn't ring a bell. Seems kinda cheepo.
Rear deraileur says ID, front says GF. Rear April 92, front is June 90.... Is there a site to determine age of the bike based on serial number?
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There used to be an incomplete one for Schwinns. I don't know about Gary Fishers.

After seeing this auction, I'd say newer than 1990.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...LrsgJVl5k%253D
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Too bad this one doesn't say the year... Same basic bike. Except, mine has a cheesy suspension fork and XCE rear derailleur...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Gary-Fis...item19c2e9d0a3

Even has a Ninja Ring...
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This guy's guessing 1991 on this one with similar paint. Yours doesn't have the gigantic headset that it looks like this on has. Maybe we should figure out which years had the gigantic headset.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tpwr7ok...n/photostream/
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Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
Maybe tank is too pejorative, but the frame feels pretty heavy; it was a stock 34# bike with bolt-on wheels and a hi-ten fork. But yes, it's still a nice lugged early mtb. (Miyata tubing).
Sounds and looks a lot like my 1986 MB-3, even the same color. No lightweight, but a great ride nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
This guy's guessing 1991 on this one with similar paint. Yours doesn't have the gigantic headset that it looks like this on has. Maybe we should figure out which years had the gigantic headset.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tpwr7ok...n/photostream/
Then this can get muddier. Doesn't look like the HKEK was offered as such in 89 and 90, but the HK-II was in its place. And of course, not pictured. http://www.mombat.org/Fisher.htm The 92 catalog shows a curved seat tube and elevate chainstays...

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Old 02-21-11, 10:25 PM
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Univega Alpina Sport

I posted this on the Univega appreciation thread too, fyi.

I've been watching Craigslist for an early lugged steel mountain bike, with that really stretched out frame geometry. A 1984 Univega Alpina Sport showed up, I took a look and brought it home. The seller used to run a sporting goods store when he bought the bike, but mostly just stored it. There are the usual scratches you get from storing bikes in crowded places, but everything is really clean.

The Alpina Sport is dark grey with nice gold high-lighting around the lug work. It has "chromoly double butted frame tubes and fork with hi-tension stays" according to one sticker and is "for off road use only" according to another It has a Suntour AG Tech RD, a 6-speed in the rear with increasingly large jumps between the lower gears, 48-40-28 Sugino chain rings, and top mounted Suntour power shifters. The original tires and grips are in excellent shape. Wheels are Araya 26 x 1.50. The brake cables were in fine shape, but I replaced the shifter cables.

I can't quite figure out the ride yet, but I know I don't like the handlebars. They are bullmoose-ish, but way too wide and too close to a flat bar in nature. I will probably replace them with mustache bars, partly out of curiosity. I need a new seat too, the original Univega seat on it just isn't comfy, even though the previous Univega seat I had on a different bike was my all time favorite. This will be mostly for bike trails and fire trails, and I will probably put bigger tires on it when the current ones wear out.

Assuming it is the same frame geometry as the Miyata All Terrain bikes, it has a 68* head tube angle, and I measured 2.75" of trail. I can U-turn in a driveway - slowly. I didn't find it sluggish to turn on the couple rides I've been on so far, but the I think the wide handlebars give me too much leverage because sometimes it seems almost twitchy. When I held the bars closer to the stem this mostly went away.

The pics below are "as found."









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Here is one I put together a few weeks ago. Look forward to riding it soon:











Outside of the repop tires, correct to 1986.
Enjoy the ride,
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Old 02-22-11, 05:26 PM
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Dang a tough crowd here on CV....I thought you would like that one.
How about a picture of my old mass produced Fisher or Specialized instead....


Loaner bike. Bought this new in 1988. Whatever leftover components are in the bin go to keep this one running. Need to borrow a bike, here ya go.


Donor Craigslist bike. Used most the era correct 1983 components from this bike on a Ritchey build. Nothing more than frame and fork now. Gotta dig those Mafac canti's, biplane fork....

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Old 02-22-11, 05:29 PM
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That Rodriguez is seriously awesome! Is it fillet brazed? What tubing?
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+1 - beautiful looking bike.
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Old 02-22-11, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ewmyers View Post
I posted this on the Univega appreciation thread too, fyi.

I've been watching Craigslist for an early lugged steel mountain bike, with that really stretched out frame geometry. A 1984 Univega Alpina Sport showed up, I took a look and brought it home. The seller used to run a sporting goods store when he bought the bike, but mostly just stored it. There are the usual scratches you get from storing bikes in crowded places, but everything is really clean.

The Alpina Sport is dark grey with nice gold high-lighting around the lug work. It has "chromoly double butted frame tubes and fork with hi-tension stays" according to one sticker and is "for off road use only" according to another It has a Suntour AG Tech RD, a 6-speed in the rear with increasingly large jumps between the lower gears, 48-40-28 Sugino chain rings, and top mounted Suntour power shifters. The original tires and grips are in excellent shape. Wheels are Araya 26 x 1.50. The brake cables were in fine shape, but I replaced the shifter cables.

I can't quite figure out the ride yet, but I know I don't like the handlebars. They are bullmoose-ish, but way too wide and too close to a flat bar in nature. I will probably replace them with mustache bars, partly out of curiosity. I need a new seat too, the original Univega seat on it just isn't comfy, even though the previous Univega seat I had on a different bike was my all time favorite. This will be mostly for bike trails and fire trails, and I will probably put bigger tires on it when the current ones wear out.

Assuming it is the same frame geometry as the Miyata All Terrain bikes, it has a 68* head tube angle, and I measured 2.75" of trail. I can U-turn in a driveway - slowly. I didn't find it sluggish to turn on the couple rides I've been on so far, but the I think the wide handlebars give me too much leverage because sometimes it seems almost twitchy. When I held the bars closer to the stem this mostly went away.

The pics below are "as found."

That's funny - looks like it could be the same frame as the Miyata I posted earlier (#1597). I know what you mean about the steering. Those bars were super-wide; I took about 1.5" off each end. Not a bad ride, though.
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Is anyone here a Marin dating expert? I was recently given a very light (for steel anyway) Marin frame that was repainted. The main jounts are tig welded, and it has Marin branded vertical drops that are brazed on. It has a canti brake cable stop on rear, and two bottle cage mounts. Bottom bracket is a 68mm, and bottom pull FD. Original color looks to be a creamy white, and the S/n can be provided if it helps? I am guessing late eighties or very early nineties, since it seems right at home with a suspension fork. IE: front end is not too high, and a gently sloping top tube. DT is oversized tubing. 26.8 seatpost, not the oh so common 27.2.,,,,BD

At any rate, it should be a fun build, and I have mostly all the parts to make a trail
blaster out of it. I am new to to true MTB'ing, and only have a 2009 Specialized P-1
to judge by. I have heard a good steel hardtail can be "magical" lol!


FOUND IT!! This it, right down to the paint color, I though someone had scratched through the spray paint on on one side of the DT, but maybe it was the decals that were scratched off? Team Marin makes me think it was a decent machine?? It even has scratch marks on the stays, where the "afterburners" sticker was. COOL!

http://www.davidbjack.com/Marin%20MTB.JPG
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
That Rodriguez is seriously awesome! Is it fillet brazed? What tubing?
+1 Super cool bike, that's for sure.
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Is anyone here a Marin dating expert? I was recently given a very light (for steel anyway) Marin frame that was repainted. The main jounts are tig welded, and it has Marin branded vertical drops that are brazed on. It has a canti brake cable stop on rear, and two bottle cage mounts. Bottom bracket is a 68mm, and bottom pull FD. Original color looks to be a creamy white, and the S/n can be provided if it helps? I am guessing late eighties or very early nineties, since it seems right at home with a suspension fork. IE: front end is not too high, and a gently sloping top tube. DT is oversized tubing. 26.8 seatpost, not the oh so common 27.2.,,,,BD

At any rate, it should be a fun build, and I have mostly all the parts to make a trail
blaster out of it. I am new to to true MTB'ing, and only have a 2009 Specialized P-1
to judge by. I have heard a good steel hardtail can be "magical" lol!


FOUND IT!! This it, right down to the paint color, I though someone had scratched through the spray paint on on one side of the DT, but maybe it was the decals that were scratched off? Team Marin makes me think it was a decent machine?? It even has scratch marks on the stays, where the "afterburners" sticker was. COOL!

http://www.davidbjack.com/Marin%20MTB.JPG
Nice looking Marin. I have a Scott Comp Racing steel frame hardtail that is a lot of fun to ride up in the hills. It's pretty nimble. Hopefully you're Marin will be also.
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Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
That's funny - looks like it could be the same frame as the Miyata I posted earlier (#1597). I know what you mean about the steering. Those bars were super-wide; I took about 1.5" off each end. Not a bad ride, though.
Yes, I suspect the frame design is the same - clearly the lugs are, even if the tubing is different, and of course Univega made their own choices for components as well. It didn't occur to me to just shorten the existing bars, but I don't love that hand position anyway, so I'm going to try out mustache bars I think. Did the steering clear up any when you shortened the bars? I put my Brooks Champion Flyer on the Alpina and that made a *big* difference. I'm also looking at possibly putting fatter tires on it, what are you running, and what do you think of them?
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Bike Dued, my good friend has a Marin Team that looks much like yours. His is satin finish so it looks like polished titanium. He bought it in 93, and still has it. It has the same dropouts and afterburner stays. It is built with Tange Prestige Concept tubing, and is truly a magical ride. His is built with Shimano XT rapidfire plus, 7 speed stuff. He's also got a Marin branded AMP parallelogram fork on it. Very nice frameset that I've been trying to weasel out of his hands for years now but he's not giving it up.
You won't be disappointed. Very nice score!
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
That Rodriguez is seriously awesome! Is it fillet brazed? What tubing?
Thanks, it is a beautiful bike. Yes that is fillet brazing. No tubing stickers but date stamp of 5/86 on the BB and fillet brazing leads me to believe this is probably single wall 4130.
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Did the steering clear up any when you shortened the bars? I put my Brooks Champion Flyer on the Alpina and that made a *big* difference. I'm also looking at possibly putting fatter tires on it, what are you running, and what do you think of them?
I never rode it before cutting the bars, so I can't comment on the difference. That bike is really too small for me and I think that fact is to blame for my not feeling comfortable on it.

The tires are Michelin Country Rock. It's the first time I've tried them and I haven't put many miles on them. They're a bit heavy as I recall, but a plush ride and they corner well.
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Originally Posted by Smokinapankake View Post
Bike Dued, my good friend has a Marin Team that looks much like yours. His is satin finish so it looks like polished titanium. He bought it in 93, and still has it. It has the same dropouts and afterburner stays. It is built with Tange Prestige Concept tubing, and is truly a magical ride. His is built with Shimano XT rapidfire plus, 7 speed stuff. He's also got a Marin branded AMP parallelogram fork on it. Very nice frameset that I've been trying to weasel out of his hands for years now but he's not giving it up.
You won't be disappointed. Very nice score!

It's a little on the small side, but it will do. Now I just have to weasel a set of XT derailleurs away from my boss. He used to race mountain bikes, and has a 24 pound homegrown hardtai to prove it, hehe. I have the shifters(8spd) a set of wheels, the syncros post that came with it, and a nice old mid 90's Rock Shock fork with a canti cable stop. Need the FD/RD headset, LONG stem, and a cogset to get on the trail. I can't wait!,,,,BD
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1984 Miyata Terra Runner garage sale find converted to SS. Ride quality tbd, but I'm digging the slack angles. You have to love Miyata - forged dropouts with adjusters on a low-mid level tank of a frame.
Nice !

We do not have Miyata MTBs of that era overhere.


My current project is a Gazelle Champion Mondial ATB, but this will be next one >>

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My current project is a Gazelle Champion Mondial ATB, but this will be next one >>

Peeling a basket of Clementines? Make sure you post video. Kidding; nice picture.

Have you posted pics of the Gazelle? I'd love to see that.
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I posted this a few weeks ago after picking it up. I tore it down, cleaned it up, and put it back together. It has had a pretty rough life, from the looks of the hardware and all of the scratches on it.

1988 MB3

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but this will be next one >>

Nicely composed photo! What a great frame, I want one of those pretty badly. Looking forward to the completed Yeti.
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I can't remember if I've posted a pic of this Trek in this thread. Oh well... here's a 1990 Trek 930 that I built up for my brother as a commuter. Very nice lugged frame.

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