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02-27-17, 09:36 AM
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Take good care of it.
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02-27-17, 09:40 AM
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What a score, lugged Moots with curved seat stays and those wild rear dropouts! Moving the axle in the dropouts will not only adjust wheelbase but also increase or decrease head and seat angle. I've seen a couple of old mountaineers but none with those dropouts. That's a museum piece from a time when the design of the mountain bike was still evolving and builders were trying all sorts of different ideas; things like 24" rear wheels, elevated chain stays, and a variety of different geometries.
Take good care of it.
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Take good care of it.
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02-27-17, 09:47 AM
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I would not do a total repainted but be sure and arrest all the rust. Painting is your decision though. IMO, a total repainted would...
Cool bike like I said in the other thread!
Cool bike like I said in the other thread!
02-27-17, 10:53 AM
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Yes, it will lose appeal to those that matter. No repaint = history being told upfront. Stop the rust, save all old parts, do nothing that cannot be returned to original. As Brent said this is a very rare example of evolution in process from one of the most iconic builders, to those that really care this is like winning the lottery for free. Excellent score, well done! 
Again, save all old parts, tires, seat, grips, cables, chain, etc. put in a bag and keep, they tell their part of the story and may help with the provenance.
Again, save all old parts, tires, seat, grips, cables, chain, etc. put in a bag and keep, they tell their part of the story and may help with the provenance.
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02-27-17, 11:11 AM
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I would suggest sending a photo or two to Moots to find out if the paint is original and to get a little more info on the bike. I haven't seen an old Moots with a fade paint job before but I've only seen a couple of these bikes and photos on the internet are scarce. It is conceivable that later rear triangle modifications were done to this bike and the red paint added at that time.
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02-27-17, 11:23 AM
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I would suggest sending a photo or two to Moots to find out if the paint is original and to get a little more info on the bike. I haven't seen an old Moots with a fade paint job before but I've only seen a couple of these bikes and photos on the internet are scarce. It is conceivable that later rear triangle modifications were done to this bike and the red paint added at that time.
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02-27-17, 07:20 PM
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That paint shouldn't be too hard to match. What a great project, love the rear drop outs. Always unique things on Kent's builds.
03-07-17, 09:30 PM
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Ritchey Rocky
2000 Rocky Hammer Race made with Ritchey Nitanium tubing and has Ritchey dropouts. Before mods.
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03-09-17, 07:47 PM
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I posted a couple of images here but thought I should add a few more, especially for those that simply enjoy the older lugged steel ones. 1985 Sierra Grande.
All original except for the knobby IRC tires, which I still have, still on the original chain and brake pads, cables too. Added the King cage and stainless water bottle of course and a Carradice seat bag for some extra versatility on those "grueling" off road rides when I am casually pedaling on a gravel pathway - snacks are important after all!
All original except for the knobby IRC tires, which I still have, still on the original chain and brake pads, cables too. Added the King cage and stainless water bottle of course and a Carradice seat bag for some extra versatility on those "grueling" off road rides when I am casually pedaling on a gravel pathway - snacks are important after all!
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03-09-17, 08:13 PM
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I have a fleet of 80s and 90s Stumpjumpers but only two that are really worth posting.
The first is a 1991 Stumpjumper S Works, I think it was the very first steel framed S Works model produced. It's not 100% original but has a full period correct XT build, other than the modern XT v brakes.
The other is a nearly mint 1985 Stumpjumper Team, billed as the first production race mtn bike. It's about 95% original, I'm still searching for the correct black Tommaselli Racer brake levers (Suntour XC Power on currently), the chrome Specialized wheel skewers (XT M730 currently), and the 1.5" Specialized Tri-Cross tires (1.95" Ground Control currently). I even have the original owners manual, sales receipt and an extra set of original decals the original owner requested at the time of purchase because he wasn't sure he wanted to keep the bike pink but the color grew on him, thankfully!
The first is a 1991 Stumpjumper S Works, I think it was the very first steel framed S Works model produced. It's not 100% original but has a full period correct XT build, other than the modern XT v brakes.
The other is a nearly mint 1985 Stumpjumper Team, billed as the first production race mtn bike. It's about 95% original, I'm still searching for the correct black Tommaselli Racer brake levers (Suntour XC Power on currently), the chrome Specialized wheel skewers (XT M730 currently), and the 1.5" Specialized Tri-Cross tires (1.95" Ground Control currently). I even have the original owners manual, sales receipt and an extra set of original decals the original owner requested at the time of purchase because he wasn't sure he wanted to keep the bike pink but the color grew on him, thankfully!
03-09-17, 08:20 PM
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I'm still in the process of restoring it but this is how it currently sits. I have the original rear hub and freewheel ready to install soon as well as M700 shifters and a MC70 front brake a local friend of mine is giving to me.
03-10-17, 08:36 AM
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96 C'Dale
96 Cannondale M400 I picked up off CL just for knocking around town. Fitted with City Rock slicks and an old Judy Fork....now long gone. Stolen from the parking lot of GF's condo-all captured on security video. I had very little into it and it's since been replaced with a new bike. But I enjoyed it while I had it.
03-10-17, 09:15 AM
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I'm not positive to be honest, it's kinda funny because I wasn't born until two years after my bike was made! I did find an article from 1985 reviewing this bike and I bet it lists frame geos, I know the Team was quite different from the Stumpjumper and Stumpjumper Sport.
03-10-17, 10:08 AM
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One of my riding buddies has had this bike since he bought it new in 1988. He replaced it with a more modern bike a couple decades ago. He finally got tired of it cluttering up his basement and gave it to me. My apologies for no "before" pictures but it certainly looked like a bike that had been put away dirty and left in a basement for a dozen years. It's an aluminum frame with a chromed steel Koski fork.
I cleaned it up, put in some new tubes and a couple new cables and found in my box-o-stuff a replacement seatpost and seat for the ones that somehow escaped during their imprisonment in the basement.
So what should I do with a bike that was given to me, in which I have a total investment of about $10, and that is much too small for me?
I recently noticed that the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame and Marin Museum of Bicycling was selling a few donated classic bikes to help pay the bills. They're less than 10 miles form my house so this afternoon I took the bike down there to see if they were interested. Repack Rider himself was manning the front desk and was happy to see the bike. He had one like it, but larger, that was stolen many years ago. Joe Breeze, the designer of this bike, was giving a tour to some visiting cycling luminaries when I arrived. Once the tour was finished he was happy to accept the donation.
I get to help out a good cause. The museum gets a little infusion of funds, someone gets to buy a cool piece of MTB history. Everyone wins. If you're looking for an older MTB you might want to give them a call. They always have a few and the prices are reasonable. They're in Fairfax, California.
Brent
I cleaned it up, put in some new tubes and a couple new cables and found in my box-o-stuff a replacement seatpost and seat for the ones that somehow escaped during their imprisonment in the basement.
So what should I do with a bike that was given to me, in which I have a total investment of about $10, and that is much too small for me?
I recently noticed that the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame and Marin Museum of Bicycling was selling a few donated classic bikes to help pay the bills. They're less than 10 miles form my house so this afternoon I took the bike down there to see if they were interested. Repack Rider himself was manning the front desk and was happy to see the bike. He had one like it, but larger, that was stolen many years ago. Joe Breeze, the designer of this bike, was giving a tour to some visiting cycling luminaries when I arrived. Once the tour was finished he was happy to accept the donation.
I get to help out a good cause. The museum gets a little infusion of funds, someone gets to buy a cool piece of MTB history. Everyone wins. If you're looking for an older MTB you might want to give them a call. They always have a few and the prices are reasonable. They're in Fairfax, California.
Brent
03-11-17, 02:01 PM
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My daughter pulled this out of the dumpster of her apartment. It is a '96 Specialized Ground Control A1. I did a complete overhaul. It turned out very nice.
03-11-17, 10:52 PM
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Just picked up a 1995 DiNucci S Works in custom Prestige tubing. The horrible part is the fork wasn't with the frame but the original Titanium stem and seatpost came with it. I added a custom 24 spoke Hed wheelset and brand new 1x10 Shimano SLX drivetrain. T780 XT v brakes coming tomorrow.
I'll probably just find a 90s Specialized Direct Drive fork for this and repaint it to match. So far I'm into the bike a whopping $75.
I'll probably just find a 90s Specialized Direct Drive fork for this and repaint it to match. So far I'm into the bike a whopping $75.
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03-12-17, 01:23 AM
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Holy crap, what a score! I am pretty weak on these specifically but when you say DiNucci or Merz you have my full attention. Can you give us a quick or long lesson on these and more pics plz. 
Just picked up a 1995 DiNucci S Works in custom Prestige tubing. The horrible part is the fork wasn't with the frame but the original Titanium stem and seatpost came with it. I added a custom 24 spoke Hed wheelset and brand new 1x10 Shimano SLX drivetrain. T708 XT v brakes coming tomorrow.
I'll probably just find a 90s Specialized Direct Drive fork for this and repaint it to match. So far I'm into the bike a whopping $75.
I'll probably just find a 90s Specialized Direct Drive fork for this and repaint it to match. So far I'm into the bike a whopping $75.
03-12-17, 09:45 AM
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Its an amazingly light frame, I'm certain it's lighter than my 96 M2 Comp in the same size and I'd even go as far to say it'd give modern frames a run for their money in the weight department.
This is one of the few things I could find on the bike. I guess it was only sold as a frameset (from what I was told by an owner of one), with the frame, fork, Titanium stem and the seatpost. I know I'll never find that original fork by itself so I'll have to use the tad heavier regular stumpjumper fork when I find a donor. Here are two screenshots from the 1995 S Works catalog telling a bit about why this frameset was special. I guess it was only made for the one season.
03-12-17, 12:27 PM
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Great stuff, you could have Mark build a fork for it $$$$$ if you really wanted. 
DiNucci, Merz and Neenan are imho largely responsible for Specialized success, especially early on. Much of this coming from Merz and DiNucci's own success working together and independently before that in PDX.
DiNucci, Merz and Neenan are imho largely responsible for Specialized success, especially early on. Much of this coming from Merz and DiNucci's own success working together and independently before that in PDX. To be completely honest, I wasn't even aware of this bike until a week ago when someone on a Facebook page posted a pic of theirs with a recent article on the bike linked ( DiNucci Is Served: 1995 Specialized S-Works | Cycle EXIF ). I was on the local craigslist a couple days later and one of these frames happened to pop up and listed as "1999s steel specialized stumpjumper s works", or something along those lines so of course I had to have it at that price.
Its an amazingly light frame, I'm certain it's lighter than my 96 M2 Comp in the same size and I'd even go as far to say it'd give modern frames a run for their money in the weight department.
This is one of the few things I could find on the bike. I guess it was only sold as a frameset (from what I was told by an owner of one), with the frame, fork, Titanium stem and the seatpost. I know I'll never find that original fork by itself so I'll have to use the tad heavier regular stumpjumper fork when I find a donor. Here are two screenshots from the 1995 S Works catalog telling a bit about why this frameset was special. I guess it was only made for the one season.
Its an amazingly light frame, I'm certain it's lighter than my 96 M2 Comp in the same size and I'd even go as far to say it'd give modern frames a run for their money in the weight department.
This is one of the few things I could find on the bike. I guess it was only sold as a frameset (from what I was told by an owner of one), with the frame, fork, Titanium stem and the seatpost. I know I'll never find that original fork by itself so I'll have to use the tad heavier regular stumpjumper fork when I find a donor. Here are two screenshots from the 1995 S Works catalog telling a bit about why this frameset was special. I guess it was only made for the one season.
03-12-17, 12:35 PM
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Great stuff, you could have Mark build a fork for it $$$$$ if you really wanted. DiNucci, Merz and Neenan are imho largely responsible for Specialized success, especially early on. Much of this coming from Merz and DiNucci's own success working together and independently before that in PDX.
DiNucci, Merz and Neenan are imho largely responsible for Specialized success, especially early on. Much of this coming from Merz and DiNucci's own success working together and independently before that in PDX.
03-12-17, 12:40 PM
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