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Old 01-08-23, 06:43 PM
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For those who are using Stans, how are you putting the stuff in your tires? I've tried with the small bottle, and it tends to make a mess. I've seen kits that seem to be a 5cc syringe, a heavy gauge IV cannula, and an extension tube. Are those good for the job? Despite riding sew-ups since the early eighties, this autumn was my first time trying sealant.
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I remove the valve core then put the small bottle tight against the valve with very little mess.
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Originally Posted by MooneyBloke View Post
For those who are using Stans, how are you putting the stuff in your tires? I've tried with the small bottle, and it tends to make a mess. I've seen kits that seem to be a 5cc syringe, a heavy gauge IV cannula, and an extension tube. Are those good for the job? Despite riding sew-ups since the early eighties, this autumn was my first time trying sealant.
I like using the Park Item # TSI-1. Hardly necessary but, for me, usually makes for a much cleaner job making it worth the cost.
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I use Orange Seal which is available in a small squeeze bottle with a clear plastic hose that fits over the valve stem. As mentioned above the trick is to remove the valve core first. Also, position the wheel with the valve somewhere around the 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock position when filling so that the sealant inside the tire flows away from the valve.
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Old 01-09-23, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MooneyBloke View Post
For those who are using Stans, how are you putting the stuff in your tires? I've tried with the small bottle, and it tends to make a mess. I've seen kits that seem to be a 5cc syringe, a heavy gauge IV cannula, and an extension tube. Are those good for the job? Despite riding sew-ups since the early eighties, this autumn was my first time trying sealant.

I have such a kit, but the syringe is 60cc. The tube screws onto the valve stem. Works well. Just need to clean it well after use.

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Old 01-09-23, 05:34 PM
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I do remove the core, but sometimes if the tire moves at all, air coming out pushes Stans out of the stem making a mess. I figure the cannula would get the stuff past the stem making this problem less likely.

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Old 01-09-23, 05:36 PM
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I have such a kit, but the syringe is 60cc.
You're right. It's much bigger. 5cc would be less than 1/5fl oz. Not very useful.
My oopsie.

I do wonder why some of those kits have a stopcock on the extension tube. Consequence of repurposing medical equipment maybe.

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I use a syringe and remove the valve core: very little mess
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Rule one; don't use sealant in a tubular tire with latex tubes. Too sticky and when its reinflated, can tear the latex tube.

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All done, no muss, no fuss. For posterity, I took some pics:













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Amazing looking bike, what a stunner :O - What are those rims? I'd absolutely love to get me some of those for my randonneur.
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Rule one; don't use sealant in a tubular tire with latex tubes. Too sticky and when its reinflated, can tear the latex tube.

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I've been using sealant in tubulars with latex tubes for a few years. But I make sure that my tubulars never go completely flat between rides, which is bad for the tubes anyway if the bike is sitting upright on its tires. This only requires me to re-inflate every week or two, which might get to be a chore if you have a collection of 20 bikes but I only have three bikes with tubulars.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris View Post
I've been using sealant in tubulars with latex tubes for a few years. But I make sure that my tubulars never go completely flat between rides, which is bad for the tubes anyway if the bike is sitting upright on its tires. This only requires me to re-inflate every week or two, which might get to be a chore if you have a collection of 20 bikes but I only have three bikes with tubulars.
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My method is to not use sealant until I have a flat. Then, hopefully, I reduce the chance of an issue and I am only risking a tubular that I would need to repair anyways.
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Old 01-20-23, 07:01 AM
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While I'm mainly riding Veloflex these days, I do have a few old Conti Sprinters I'd like to marshal into duty as spares. The main issue is that I've never found a good adhesive for sticking the base tape on those. Good cotton tires do well with Val-A Tear Mender. (Trust the Bish!) This stuff doesn't work in any way with the Continentals. Has anyone tried E6000 for this job? Any success here?

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Old 01-21-23, 04:11 PM
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You can buy a basting syringe at a dollar store. The metal needle is small enough to fit inside the Presta valve sleeve once the valve is removed.

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Originally Posted by MooneyBloke View Post
While I'm mainly riding Veloflex these days, I do have a few old Conti Sprinters I'd like to marshal into duty as spares. The main issue is that I've never found a good adhesive for sticking the base tape on those. Good cotton tires do well with Val-A Tear Mender. (Trust the Bish!) This stuff doesn't work in any way with the Continentals. Has anyone tried E6000 for this job? Any success here?
Maybe try this?
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Originally Posted by Classtime View Post
Maybe try this?
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That's the Tear Mender adhesive that I don't think sticks well (from personal testing) even compressed with the Conti casings. It does a perfectly fine job with Vittoria and Veloflex cotton tires, and I keep it around for that. I'm wondering if E6000 does a better job with Conti's harder casing material.

Incidentally, I've also experimented with several high strength industrial neoprene adhesives from 3M, and the adhesion is still poor. Basically, the carcass rubber seems both very slick and impermeable to most glues. Maybe there's a solvent prep that might help, but I've not experimented here.

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