badabingoh

I recently aquired one,
I would like to know;
Who really built them? I've been told Concorde was a Dutch Team? The bikes were built in Italy, and painted in Belguim? Is This True?
The lug work is Colnolgo, some say ReRosa?
Which Columbus tubing they used (my sticker is gone)
Which Campy Grouppo was spec. ( Mine appears to be Triomphe/Victory)
What Hubs, Rims, Tires were original
Which Cinelli Stem and Bars were spec.
What Seat?
Any and all information appreciated!
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Benelux/Concorde.htm

lofter

concorde is a dutch bike maker . pdm was the mostly dutch team that made concorde kinda popular.kelly lemond and several other stars rode on the pdm team. ive heard that the team bikes were made by ciocc.lotek is the belgian bike nut around here he might be able to fill you in on that.

rorymckenna

I would like to know more about the late 80's Concorde Astore as well as I have a frame and fork. The tubing was Columbus Cromer ( sp) but I would love to see pics if anyone else has one.
-Rory

Dr.Deltron

Some were built by Nick Kostriken (and some painted by your's truly). I'm not sure which models/years. Early 90's?
I have decals if needed.
Pics???

rorymckenna

My squadra Frame is done up in late 80's PDM pro team livery..
Do you know anything about these frames?
Do you have pics of the ones you have delt with ? please post if you do..
Thanks!

T-Mar

I don't know if the Ciocc tie is true, but if it isn't, part of the reason may be that both brands had Astore models on the market at the same. However, Ciocc used Columbus SL on their model. I believe they both also marketed Aquila models.

Some good detail pics of a Concorde Astore here:
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Benelux/Concorde.htm

jet sanchEz

Funny, I was watching this eBay auction and there are some pretty nice pictures of an Astore here. I had a Concorde a little while ago but it wasn't as nice as this one but I did find that the bike was very nicely built and the general look of it was great. Enjoy it.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=140055829278

unworthy1

here's more than you want to know about the minutae of the bike biz in Italy and Belgium, but sheds some light on the connection between the Ciocc, Concorde and Paganini marques, which may have all been made by Billato in Italy, or at least were at some point in their histories:
It was in =
the 80s when Ciocc were building the Paganinis, and perhaps they gave =
way to Billato towards the end of that decade because Ciocc, like SOMEC =
and other small builders went through some reorganisation. Billato were =
also Padua based and would know Rizato the lug-maker.
Towards the end of the 80s there was a move by three of the largest =
wholesalers in the Benelux and France to form a company with the aim of =
killing off the opposition. the triumvirate was Veltec of Belguim, =
Weltmeister of Holland, and Jose Alvarez, the Naploeon of the French =
lightweeight industry from Auch near the Pyrenees. The first two went =
ahead with the venture and formed CONCORDE, while Alvarez declared =
himself bigger than the other two.. and went on his own very successful =
way.At the start of the 90s, I can't be exact the new alliance backed =
Sean Kelly with Concorde frames for the PDM team.
These frames were sprayed by Van Tperzeele at Geraardsbergen near Ghent =
(the Flemish name) or Grammont (in Walloon) some 1km from the foot of =
the famous Mur de Grammont of Belgian Classics fame.

Im Fixed

I have a Concorde Europa. Teal in color Decals are the same as the bike on ebay.

badabingoh

I'm still looking for more info on my Concorde Astore
It's at my lbs, I'll try to post pics later











Forget that sig!

Elev12k

Hello Badabingoh,

Here you find a 1993 Concorde catalogue with on page 7 the Astore for that year --> https://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/gal...2_itemId=69579

badabingoh

well, its later,here is the link:
https://s650.photobucket.com/albums/u...orde%20Astore/ 57cm
i've had it refurbished, stripped down re assembled, new parts as needed, Mavic Wheelset, bike is all campy, new sew ups, seat, tape, chain. It is excellent, mechanically. Paint is original.
Id like to get a feeler, I really have no idea what it is worth.
It could be for sale










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ALPHA37

I just received an email from mr pelizzoli (ciocc)
its about this concorde columbus slx frameset i have
because i couldn't identify my concorde type
and because it has ciocc lugs (like on the Ciocc san christobal) next to "concorde" engravings
i send an email to mr pelizzoli
and he told me it was a for pro team only special build
i quote:

"
The Concorde frames with SLX tubing were for the professional cyclers, like yours it was built from Giovanni in the end of 80s, these models did not have a name like Aquila o Colombo, for the cycler teams reasons.

Good piece of our history, congratulation.
"
so here you have it...

ciocc build frames for concorde