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what is a 1993 klein attitude worth?

Old 01-01-06, 11:21 AM
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i thought i would start a new thread rather than go to the vintage mountain bike on currently running. so i have a 1993 klein attitude in pristine condition. yup, this is the one with the mc1 superoversized headset and true horizional rear dropouts. i am the original owner. bike is size XL and weighed 21lbs. bike has been used as a road trainer and has never been off road. lx shimano gruppo except xt rear derailluer. help me out here all you mountain bikers. what is it worth? i have seen similiar bikes on ebay in not near the condition go for $800. thanks for all input

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Old 01-01-06, 03:23 PM
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It's worth what the market will bear. Best way to find out is put it up on ebay (with your reserve price of course) and see where the bidding leads. This bike has some intresting features that may drive the price up, most thirteen year old bikes won't fetch high prices.
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I wouldn't pay more than 50 bucks, but that's just me.
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I'll give you 73.50 right now, but that's me...always paying too much...
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I'm a Klein afficianado (hope I spelled that right) and keep a close eye on ebay for all older Kleins. I think you could easily get $800 for it. Hey, I just spent nearly twice that much for a NOS Attitude frame and have no regrets. There are some people who would be extremely interested in it.

I've not seen many really nice older Kleins that didn't fetch a reasonable price. If it has the rigid fork, it will probably get more interest than suspension. It seems that the rigid fork can add $200 to the final price. If the bike is in 'pristine' condition with a rigid fork (why not post a few photos?), I couldn't imagine it going for less than $800. There was a rigid XL 93 Attitude that recently went for $2400 which had the Mardi Gras (spotted) paint job a few months ago. Owner said it only had a few miles on it.

My suggestion, put a moderate price on it of a couple hundred dollars, it will be bid up in due time. I've noticed people hold back some with reserve prices. While it's not a guarantee, I can't imagine it not going for a pretty penny if it is pristine.

Keep us posted as to what you decide. I'm sure that I'll see it on ebay, but I'd be interested having a look. I'm not interested in buying it as I ride a medium, but I'm curious.

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I used to lust after Klein mtbs, and the Attitude was the king of the hill as far as I'm concerned. I've cooled my heels regarding such things now, but I can see why collectors, etc. would covet Kleins. In terms of aluminum frame construction, they were often revolutionary-
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Originally Posted by well biked
I used to lust after Klein mtbs...I've cooled my heels regarding such things now
That sort of goes back to why were posting in the vintage category and is a much wider discussion. My NOS1990 Attitude is not going to be my daily trail bike nor my daily town bike. I don't think I want to pound on such an item on a daily basis, it's too unique and the supply dwindles as they get older and I need suspension if I'm going to race. I can't use it as my daily bike as I'll never lock it up at a store.

Currently, a 1996 Attitude is my daily trail bike. It's the last year that Kleins were real before Trek starting changing things. Yes, I'm limited to the older style cranks but I have Syncros cranks, who needs to replace those? I also understand there is an adapter for a newer BB and hence a newer crank. Without the newer BB, I can't use the nine speed rings either, but I'm ok with that, who needs more than eight? Hey, I was happy when seven came out. No I don't have full suspension, but I don't need it for the XC racing that I do.

Disk brakes? Overkill for xc, besides, I can use a disk in front if I want. When it comes to riding, essentially I have unlimited funds and can buy anything I want, but I choose the 96 Attitude. That bike is as good as anything that is out there today for xc racing and I mean anything. I find the bike to be so outstanding, there is no need to change it.

Hey, no ragging on the WellBiked of course peoples needs and wants change over the years. I used to have a 1990 Attitude (since cracked). When I would show up at races, it would attract a lot of attention. Kleins weren't very common and the fat tubes, especially the fat forks and flash paint were attention-getters. When the poster said "used to lust", it reminds me of people at races saying, "I've always wanted to try one of those and I hate to ask but can I just give it a spin." "Yeah, go ahead."

I talked to Roger Durham of Bullseye recently and he told me that he gets a lot of people who say, "When I was young in the 80's I desperately wanted Bullseye but couldn't afford it. Now I'm older and can afford it. I'll get Bullseye because I can." Sometimes the lust cools, sometimes it doesn't.

WellBiked, maybe one day (just maybe) you'll be looking at vintage Kleins on ebay and say "What the heck, I'll bid on this and see what happens..." :-)

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Originally Posted by pinguwin
That sort of goes back to why were posting in the vintage category and is a much wider discussion. My NOS1990 Attitude is not going to be my daily trail bike nor my daily town bike. I don't think I want to pound on such an item on a daily basis, it's too unique and the supply dwindles as they get older and I need suspension if I'm going to race. I can't use it as my daily bike as I'll never lock it up at a store.

Currently, a 1996 Attitude is my daily trail bike. It's the last year that Kleins were real before Trek starting changing things. Yes, I'm limited to the older style cranks but I have Syncros cranks, who needs to replace those? I also understand there is an adapter for a newer BB and hence a newer crank. Without the newer BB, I can't use the nine speed rings either, but I'm ok with that, who needs more than eight? Hey, I was happy when seven came out. No I don't have full suspension, but I don't need it for the XC racing that I do.

Disk brakes? Overkill for xc, besides, I can use a disk in front if I want. When it comes to riding, essentially I have unlimited funds and can buy anything I want, but I choose the 96 Attitude. That bike is as good as anything that is out there today for xc racing and I mean anything. I find the bike to be so outstanding, there is no need to change it.

Hey, no ragging on the WellBiked of course peoples needs and wants change over the years. I used to have a 1990 Attitude (since cracked). When I would show up at races, it would attract a lot of attention. Kleins weren't very common and the fat tubes, especially the fat forks and flash paint were attention-getters. When the poster said "used to lust", it reminds me of people at races saying, "I've always wanted to try one of those and I hate to ask but can I just give it a spin." "Yeah, go ahead."

I talked to Roger Durham of Bullseye recently and he told me that he gets a lot of people who say, "When I was young in the 80's I desperately wanted Bullseye but couldn't afford it. Now I'm older and can afford it. I'll get Bullseye because I can." Sometimes the lust cools, sometimes it doesn't.

WellBiked, maybe one day (just maybe) you'll be looking at vintage Kleins on ebay and say "What the heck, I'll bid on this and see what happens..." :-)

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When I said I've cooled my heels regarding such things, I meant mountain bikes in general. I've got a really nice Gary Fisher at the moment, but in recent years it was getting more time with the road slicks installed than knobbies............gosh, I thought I was being very complimentary of Kleins, particularly the Attitude.
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Old 01-07-06, 10:26 AM
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Hey sorry man, didn't mean for this to come off as a rant (even though I often do :-). That seems to be the nature of the internet medium. And you were complimentary of them.

It wasn't a statement against you, rather a statement of why I do lust after them. My bike mechanic always kids me about riding a older bike and many people don't understand why I ride one for my daily bike. It's also a comment on nostalgia, some of which is right on and some that might be a bit rosy.

Things change, opinions change, times change...but my big mouth never does.

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It sounds like we come from the same place, more or less, in terms of bikes. I used to ride a Schwinn Traveler as a young adult, and when I put it away for good there was a new phenomenon to behold: mountain bikes! I've ridden them for many years, and at one time was about as "hardcore" as one could get. But one day I woke up to the fact that I wasn't "hardcore" anymore, and was using my trusty XC rocket more as a, (egad!) road bike than a mountain bike. Being an old school mtber, I couldn't see myself becoming a hardcore roadie, so I did what's turned out to be a very wise thing, I think: I built up the old Schwinn le tour road frame that was sitting in my basement for twenty years or so, and I've never had so much fun riding, commuting, etc. I did it in a way that's probably not well thought of on this forum, with lots and lots of gears, and even (egad again!) indexed shifting, but hey, I'm a mountain biker at heart........so anyway, that's how I landed on this forum, and I think you'll find that there's a wealth of knowledge here. I know I've learned a lot just following the threads for the last few months. And you're right about things changing, but sometimes they come full circle-
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i will try to post a picture in the next few days. i have to say that i have never owned a bike as well built as the klein attitude i have and let me assure you i have owned some pretty great bikes over the years. 19958 lenton grandprix, 1964 schwinn paramount, 1970 raliegh professional. none could compare with the workmanship of the 1993 kein attitude.
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some day I'm gonna get a medium Attitude with the big forks and build it into a single speed. I have some recollection of the skill levels required to ride no suspension, and although I looooove my double boinger, I'd like to see if I could get back to, like, steering around the rocks and stuff.
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Originally Posted by luker
I have some recollection of the skill levels required to ride no suspension, and although I looooove my double boinger, I'd like to see if I could get back to, like, steering around the rocks and stuff.
I meant to post this earlier, but had problems attaching the photo, but here is the NOS Attitude that I was talking about. It sits a few feet away from my computer and yes, it does make me excited when I see it. It was the finest bike I have ever ridden. Five years after breaking the 1990 model, when I was riding a 1991 Attitude, I saw a guy with a 1990 and I had to ask him to try it. Even years later, it still had that great feel to it. Now maybe I have a case of nostalgia and the bike won't feel the same, riding style, etc has changed, we'll have to see.

I was a late convert to suspension, one of the last serious racers to move towards it. Most of it was that I loved the way the bike handled. One day at the trails, I was discussing suspension with a couple of riders and I said, "Suspension doesn't make you a better rider, but it does make you faster." I could tell from their reactions that they thought I was clueless, even though I had been riding for 12 years. When they thought I was out of earshot, they laughed at me.

I don't usually make a point of smoking someone on the trails but when they went out on the trails and I behind them. I followed very close behind them for a while and then said, "Guys, do you mind getting out of the way?" and blazed away from them.

You can still be a very fast rider without suspension, it's a skill. One of the fastest racers in the upper midwest used to ride an unsuspended bike during the week for handling skills and only put on the suspension fork for race day. It was my goal to beat him in one race and almost did so once, but alas...he was too good.

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Once when I was a better, less broken biker I caught a couple of guys on MX motorcycles on a rocky, nasty downhill. I have rarely enjoyed embarrassing someone so much as when I asked for (and got!) the trail from them.

I have trashed to many of my moving parts, too many times, to smoke the MX'ers any more, though. That is a beautiful bike, and I know what you're saying - that's the one that I'll build up some day.

Dean TI post, Marinovater brakes, Paul's love levers, Ringle cranks (maybe) - Nuke or White hubs, 28/32, MA-217's, and I have some ultralight Conti Cross-country tires salted away. And the mission control bars, of course. da bomb.
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Damn, Penguwin, that bike has my heart racing just looking at it. That's bike porn at its finest as far as I'm concerned.........just for the record, my "dream" mountain bike would be a custom, steel, 29" wheeled model, fully rigid, with lots of nice bits, and the fattest tires I could squeeze between the stays..........
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Originally Posted by pinguwin
My bike mechanic always kids me about riding a older bike and many people don't understand why I ride one for my daily bike. It's also a comment on nostalgia, some of which is right on and some that might be a bit rosy.

Things change, opinions change, times change...but my big mouth never does.

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My mech used to kid, or NOT say what he wanted. He doesn't like old bikes, but is the best mech in town.
Now he's digging my gearstripped, overbuilt retro-rocket.
I'm even proud to ride the oldest functioning 'real' offroad mtb in town. Sick handling.
Somebody commented on a thread 'steering so twitchy, if you sneeze you're on the opposite side of the track.'
My interest in XC frames are old T.R, Brodie, Chris Chance..I've not ridden Kliens. Look nice.
My bikes pretty F'ugly, was only meant to win races, not aesthetic pleasing\uncommon for T.R.

I don't dig nostalga, no bull-moose bars\centerpull brakes here.
Simply put, a chromoly frame designed and built HQ is big $$$ then, still is now.
I cannot afford $800 for a new one, so I ride vintage race steel.

Can't say I care for the Kliens paint.
Easy to find in the snow I guess.
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back to the original question - 7208703181 is just about up - a beautiful ultraviolet frame/fork/hbar combo, really clean - and it's up to $660. and, of course, I want it...
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"what is it worth?"

Whatever fun you can get out of the old pipe.
Mines worth thousands to me.
Might get a few $$$ if I sold it.

NOT!
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Originally Posted by luker
back to the original question - 7208703181 is just about up - a beautiful ultraviolet frame/fork/hbar combo, really clean - and it's up to $660. and, of course, I want it...
I thought about bidding for this one, but I think it's stretched out a little long for me. The 93 had a longer top tube than, say a 1990 did, and with the 150 mm. stem I don't think it would suit me. If it had a 120 mm. stem, I would think about it.

A month ago, there was a 1990 model that went for $960. The listing said the bike was in great shape and it talked how it won the iditabike race in Alaska. When I inquired with the owner he told me how it won all these races. First off, I don't care. Second, if it was such an acomplished racing bike, it had to have been ridden hard and most likely at odds with his description. I don't know if the seller was on the level, but if I have doubts about an expensive item I can't see, I'll let it go. There will be another one.

That purple and silver bike is a beauty and it is tempting.

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color is custom called gossemer (grey to silver fade). sob after all that work i get an error mesage that the picture file is to large after having already reduced. ok i will try to come up with a new plan.
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not as clear as i hoped. i tried image hosting. mmm
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I'm helping out Alancw3 with his posting. I resized the pics and posted them since he was having trouble with it.

I have to say that I've not seen such a paint job on a Klein (or any bike) in either person or pictures before. Here goes, enjoy....

We're a little of the original subject but that's ok, it's been pretty well covered. Maybe I'll post pics my bike in the next day or two.


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You've got to deck it out with high end period components..get some ringle hubs, cook bros cranks... and fix the seat. then it will be sweet.
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That paint job is too cool...did that come from the factory that way? is this a 21"?
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