nervex pro luggs and diamond track ends
02-14-06, 03:59 PM
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nervex pro luggs and diamond track ends
when did nervex pro luggs start being made? and does anyone recognize these track ends (they are not off my bike, but an almost identicle frame on e-bay at the moment)? They are on a viking path racer I'm attempting to date. The serial number is as follows: 25151
02-14-06, 04:38 PM
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There was some discussion on this frame on the CR list, probably not a Viking, more likely a Holdsworth, with all of the small British builders anot for certian.
Those ends show up on bikes of the 50's for sure.
Remember Nervex Professional lugs have two styles, an early and a later, just to confuse things, the difference is in the head lugs.
Those ends show up on bikes of the 50's for sure.
Remember Nervex Professional lugs have two styles, an early and a later, just to confuse things, the difference is in the head lugs.
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02-14-06, 11:17 PM
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I can't seem to find anything searching viking, path racer or Holdsworth on the list. well nothing pertinant
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I'm not sure what it was..it was 50s onwards judging by the rear
drop-outs, but those odd lugs dont sem to fit any "CB" that I have seen,
although I have seen plenty of them on Sun. Parkes, and Carlton frames.
I have an early 40s CB International Path frame, but this one has cast,
not pressed lugs, and, curiously, does not have round-to-round fork
blades, but "D" section ones. The head angle is quite fearsome, being
all of 75 degrees I reckon.
On the same Ebay advert, where the page gives details of similar frames
for sale, I noticed that there was a Viking track frame listed. That one
too wasn't a Viking, unless it was a "special" built for some top rider
of other. It had Nervex Pro Mk1 lugs, apparently very well finished with
the file, but the top eyes were of a very individual style, with what
appeared to be grooves filed at a 45 degree angle to the top-eye itself.
I have only seen this treatment once before and that was on a frame I
own which was identified by Hilary (I think) in the V-CC's "News and
VIews" magazine as a Holdsworth Path from the late 40s early 50s. The
"Vuiking" didn't make its relatively low Reserve price, but would have
fetched better bids as a Holdsworth.
I think that someone somewhere...Michael, are you reading this?..should
catalogue up all these notable top-eye features.
Norris Lockley..Settle Uk
Gotta use the search feature. Note: CB is Claud Butler V-cc is Vintage Cycle Club
drop-outs, but those odd lugs dont sem to fit any "CB" that I have seen,
although I have seen plenty of them on Sun. Parkes, and Carlton frames.
I have an early 40s CB International Path frame, but this one has cast,
not pressed lugs, and, curiously, does not have round-to-round fork
blades, but "D" section ones. The head angle is quite fearsome, being
all of 75 degrees I reckon.
On the same Ebay advert, where the page gives details of similar frames
for sale, I noticed that there was a Viking track frame listed. That one
too wasn't a Viking, unless it was a "special" built for some top rider
of other. It had Nervex Pro Mk1 lugs, apparently very well finished with
the file, but the top eyes were of a very individual style, with what
appeared to be grooves filed at a 45 degree angle to the top-eye itself.
I have only seen this treatment once before and that was on a frame I
own which was identified by Hilary (I think) in the V-CC's "News and
VIews" magazine as a Holdsworth Path from the late 40s early 50s. The
"Vuiking" didn't make its relatively low Reserve price, but would have
fetched better bids as a Holdsworth.
I think that someone somewhere...Michael, are you reading this?..should
catalogue up all these notable top-eye features.
Norris Lockley..Settle Uk
Gotta use the search feature. Note: CB is Claud Butler V-cc is Vintage Cycle Club
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Top eyes are a British term for seat stay ends or caps, or plugs, various construction types than when finished terminate and close off the seat stays.
A "fastback" style of seat stay would not have top eyes for example, as seen on most Raleigh Professionals, save the most early examples and some very late ones.
A "fastback" style of seat stay would not have top eyes for example, as seen on most Raleigh Professionals, save the most early examples and some very late ones.
