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top506 03-12-06 08:05 PM

T-mar; Miyata help, please!
 
Just sniped this on the evil Ebay:
http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29392-...tem=7224507028
My options are
1) Finish up the 512 build I was doing on this frame useing the fork from the 512
2) Find a 650 wheel and follow up on 1)
3) Put this on the back burner until I can find a treaded 1" carbon fork and high speed low drag comps
4) None of the above
5) Anything else
I'm open to any/all options, and not too proud to listen to anyboby else.
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bigbossman 03-12-06 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by top506


You are SO lucky I wasn't paying attention............ ;)

cyclotoine 03-12-06 09:18 PM

snipped is right! What a steal!

Carbocation 03-12-06 09:42 PM

Regarding Option #3:

http://www.chucksbikes.com/store/fo071.htm

Chuck's Bikes is the only place I've seen so far with with a 1-inch threaded carbon fork. Only $25, too!

leunkstar 03-13-06 03:25 AM

nice bike!
(btw.. a topictitle like "T-mar; Miyata help, please!" is not good... in my humble opinion. --> "What to do with a Miyata TT frame")

top506 03-15-06 08:34 PM

Bossman and cyclotoine:
Yeah, sometimes you get lucky, and I guess it was my turn.

Carbocation;
I would have got to chucksbikes in time, but thanks for the head's up.
I'm leaning towards the 'aero' fork on the same page.


leunkstar:
And how else would you post to t-mar? After all he is THE man when it comes to Miyatas.

I've pretty much settled on 3).
Anyone know what vintage Dura-Ace (7400?) or Campy to use?
How about a wheelset?
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leunkstar 03-16-06 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by top506
And how else would you post to t-mar? After all he is THE man when it comes to Miyatas.

That's so wrong... T-mar is also the man for all other brands known to mankind ;)
If NASA discovered a bike on Mars he will be launched to Mars to identify it ;)

i just had chosen a more general topic title, no offence ;)

top506 03-16-06 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by leunkstar
That's so wrong... T-mar is also the man for all other brands known to mankind ;)
If NASA discovered a bike on Mars he will be launched to Mars to identify it ;)

i just had chosen a more general topic title, no offence ;)

None taken :D

In all my hobbies, there's always one guy that seems to have a lock on all the obscure data. I know of a guy who can identify the date of ANY Graflex/Graphic camera by serial #.
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Im Fixed 03-16-06 08:04 AM

Nice buy

lotek 03-16-06 09:46 AM

Top,

is the geometry of that bike going to work with a 700c front wheel?
I don't know anything bout no shimano so can't help there.
Campy? I'd go early 90's c record or chorus with all the semi aero parts.

just me though.

marty

cyclotoine 03-16-06 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Carbocation
Regarding Option #3:

http://www.chucksbikes.com/store/fo071.htm

Chuck's Bikes is the only place I've seen so far with with a 1-inch threaded carbon fork. Only $25, too!

It doesn't say carbon anywhere, I was considering ordering it myself, but then noticed the lack of the word carbon. Are you sure this isn't a cro-mo fork?

top506 03-16-06 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by cyclotoine
It doesn't say carbon anywhere, I was considering ordering it myself, but then noticed the lack of the word carbon. Are you sure this isn't a cro-mo fork?

Noticed that myself.
The 'aero' fork is specified carbon, as are several others on the page.
Don't know much abouyt campy comps, as they were always too rich for my blood during my major biking years. Back then, Sun Tour Cyclone and barcons was high speed low drag, and there were even 6 speed freewheels coming out! ;)
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cyclotoine 03-16-06 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by top506
Don't know much abouyt campy comps, as they were always too rich for my blood during my major biking years. Back then, Sun Tour Cyclone and barcons was high speed low drag, and there were even 6 speed freewheels coming out! ;)
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I like cyclone derailleurs, I think they look great and I am not talking MK II or anything. I picked up a cyclone RD at the LBS for 15 bucks that is exactly the same as one I already have except it is mostly black like a super record derailleur, looks good and works great for a fraction of the price.

top506 03-20-06 01:56 PM

I might just trick this out with Superbe comps.
Need to do some research.
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T-Mar 03-20-06 02:29 PM

Correct build would Shimano Dura Ace 7400 series, with Araya rear disk, Araya ADX 32H radialy laced to Superbe Pro hub, Selle Italia super Turbo saddle, Nitto stem and cowhorn bars.

top506 03-22-06 03:04 PM

I knew T-Mar would have the answers!
What was the last 126mm Dura-Ace gruppo? I assume this is going to be a 7 sprocket rear. And advice on shifters and brake levers would be welcome as well.
I have a line on a crankset and BB.
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(BTW, the frame arrived today; it looks even better than in the pics):)

miamijim 03-22-06 04:54 PM

Its been a very looooong time but...I dont believe the chrome fork is original. I could be wrong.

T-Mar 03-22-06 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by top506
I knew T-Mar would have the answers!
What was the last 126mm Dura-Ace gruppo? I assume this is going to be a 7 sprocket rear. And advice on shifters and brake levers would be welcome as well.
I have a line on a crankset and BB.
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(BTW, the frame arrived today; it looks even better than in the pics):)

The 7400 was the last 126mm group and also the basis for the first 130mm (8 speed) group. The majority of the parts stayed the same, but the 8 speed dedicated parts (i.e shifters, cassette and hubs) were updated to 7402.

The correct freewheel is 6 speed, 13-21T. I'm not quite sure why it is only 6 speed. Many time trialists minimized the number of cogs to try and save some weight, so that may be at least part of the reason. There's certainly no reason why you couldn't go 7 speed, unless you trying to keep it original. Good luck finding the color co-ordinated Araya disk wheel!

Brake levers should be BL-7400 and shift levers should be SL-7400 (or SL-7401, 7 speed)

BTW, the chrome fork is correct.

It's getting to be that time of year where I don't follow all the vintage threads, so if you really need to contact me, try a private message or e-mail via the forum. Even then, it may take a few days to get back to you, as I seem to get quite a few direct inquiries.

handsomerob 04-27-06 01:11 PM

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I have acquired two Shimano Dura Ace 7400 series hubsets.

Both rear hubs say Dura Ace on one side and Integrated 8 SIS on the other, however one is a 126mm and one is a 130mm. The hub bodys and axles are the only real difference.

Why would a 7 speed hubbody have a hub that says Integrated 8 SIS??? See the pic..

Also, I didn't realize how expensive/difficult it is to get Dura Ace Uniglide cassettes until after I acquired these. So, if anyone is interested the loose one pictured and the front hub that goes with it are for sale or trade.

Thanks.

cyclotoine 04-27-06 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by handsomerob
I have acquired two Shimano Dura Ace 7400 series hubsets.

Both rear hubs say Dura Ace on one side and Integrated 8 SIS on the other, however one is a 126mm and one is a 130mm. The hub bodys and axles are the only real difference.

Why would a 7 speed hubbody have a hub that says Integrated 8 SIS??? See the pic..

Also, I didn't realize how expensive/difficult it is to get Dura Ace Uniglide cassettes until after I acquired these. So, if anyone is interested the loose one pictured and the front hub that goes with it are for sale or trade.

Thanks.

Because someone changed the hub body, it's easy enough to do and then you have a primo modern wheel that fits in your vintage at 126mm? T-mar did say they came in 126mm with that part number... some things will always remain a mystery?


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