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Old 07-05-06, 06:26 PM
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"BCM" stamped on frame? Update on "Bepe"

Hi, and thanks so much to those who have been helping me. You're making this scary process a lot less foreign.

So I went over there today to ride the bike and check it out again. The seller was lowering the seat and broke a little nut in the seat-lowering mechanism. He felt really bad that he broke it and he wanted to get rid of it ASAP, so he said he'd give it to me for free. I didn't feel comfortable with that, so I gave him $50 for the bike and the tool set.

So now I have the bike. I have pics as well, albeit crappy b/c its a webcam (can get better ones later). I looked really closely at the frame, and on the underside of one part of tubing is stamped, really small, "BCM". I googled it and couldn't find any info on this manufacturer. Anyone know what that means? That and the number "2" are the only identifying marks on the frame.

I have the bike, but I'm not sure what my next step is. I think I should determine what needs fixed/ replaced first, but I don't know how to do that. Any and all help or recommendations are MUCH appreciated!

BTW, anybody in Columbus, Ohio? I'd pay you to teach me about my bike while we fix it together. Thanks!
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Pics of Bepe/BCM

If the pics don't work, please let me know. Also, I can get better pics later!

I didn't even mention in the first post that I LOVE this bike! I feel like I could throw it 30 feet easily because of how light it is. It rides very smoothly and naturally. I think I'm going to enjoy this project!

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Pics of Bepe/BCM

If the pics don't work, please let me know. Also, I can get better pics later!

I didn't even mention in the first post that I LOVE this bike! I feel like I could throw it 30 feet easily because of how light it is. It rides very smoothly and naturally. I think I'm going to enjoy this project!
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Bocama stamped BCM on their lugs.

The first thing I'd do is remove the clamp from the top tube.

It's a very nice bike.
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I have the bike, but I'm not sure what my next step is. I think I should determine what needs fixed/ replaced first, but I don't know how to do that. Any and all help or recommendations are MUCH appreciated!
I'd make sure everything is greased. The old grease usually ends up dried out and looking like beeswax.

Check out Sheldon Brown's always helpful site http://sheldonbrown.com/repair/index.html or one of the other repair oriented sites http://bikewebsite.com/repair-bike-index.htm

Then I'd inspect the wheels. Squeeze handfuls of spokes to make sure none are broken. Spin the wheel to check if true. I usually replace the tires and tubes -- are these 27 inch or 700c?

I won't argue with Dirtdrop. That is a very nice bike.

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It does look like a nice bike. I thought I saw some figures stamped on the bottom of the bottom bracket shell in pic 31. Or am I seeing things?

Here's a little info on Bocama lugs:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/Bocama_lugs.htm
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Nick, I'll check that area for stamps tomorrow. Thanks for the link to Bocama lugs!

Silversmith, the wheels are in good shape, but they're sew-ups and if I keep them I'll have to make my own ball bearing cassettes (I'm probably using the wrong vernacular here). I'm thinking of getting new ones, but I'll check and see what size they are.

Dirtdrop, I'll check for the clamp you're talking about tomorrow.

Thanks all for the info/ suggestions. I'm learning as I go.
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the wheels are in good shape, but they're sew-ups
I couldn't see what brand they are, but they look to be decent rims with eyelets. I suspect the hubs may be worth close to what you paid for the whole bike.
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Yeah, I think you scored a really nice one here. The pics a very fuzzy but what i see looks like a very good italian frame (there's a Colnago decal on the seat tube, but who knows what THAT's about...) and a mix of some high end Italian parts and some second-tier ones plus some I can't decifer. The crank looks like a swaged unit, not sure what make, probably lower end but...usable. Can't tell if those are Campy pedals or look-alikes; maybe that's one of the weird Ofmega Mistral plastic front derailleurs; got to suspect that any bike with a full-chrome fork is probably high grade tubing, unless that's a Tange replacement fork. But anyhow, for $50 you can't go wrong even if if turns out more of a "rider" than a "showboat" after you clean it up. Have fun!
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Avocet pedals? is the entire gruppo Avocet?
I believe most of their componenets were produced by Giepemme (sic).
Those lugs look nicely thinned. This isn't a cheap bike but as stated
above a high end bike.
Looks like simplex derailleurs?

Keep us posted as to what you're doing with it.
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Now that I went and read the earlier posts, I reckon it might not be Italian, but still looks it to me. BCM lugs usually show up on French/British/Continental bikes, unusual on an Italian...I guess. Maybe it IS Belgian. The rear derailluer sure looks like a Simplex, but the front seemed different to my Mr. Magoo view, and the shifters are "Campy-ish", not the plastic Simps. Whats great about this murky detective work is I'm bound to be at least 50% wrong! Which is about my average...
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What kind of dropouts/fork ends? From what I can see in the pics, it looks a lot like a Follis I picked up earlier this year.
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Sorry I haven't updated guys. I need to wait for the weekend to have a couple hours to just sit down with the bike, take some good pics, and examine it. I'll just repost on this thread.
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Sorry I haven't updated guys. I need to wait for the weekend to have a couple hours to just sit down with the bike, take some good pics, and examine it. I'll just repost on this thread.
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Bcm

Hi, for what it's worth, my 1972 Gitane "Tour de France" also has a BCM stamp. It is such a mint condition bike and I was so frustrated for months because I knew everything about the bike except for the mysterious "BCM" stamp. I later found out that BCM had hoped to reach the component status of Simplex but it never happened, they went under, and are now an arm of Ducati Motorcycles.......
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