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ENGLISH 10SPEED 08-23-06 08:52 AM

Need help identifying an old Dawes
 
I just aquired a Dawes 10 speed in bad shape,but because i have a thing for 10 speeds I would like to get
it going again.That part i can do,what i need help with is dating and identifying the bike.I have a serial# and various marks and stamps which i will list below.But I cannot find much info on old Dawes(old Schwinn and Raleighs loads of info).Any help is appreciated
HEADSET-1" ISO THREDED HEADSET WITH 1/8"BALLS STAMPED MADE IN ENGLAND
FRAME-VERY LIGHT-POSSIBLE REYNOLDS 501 OR 531-MARK WHERE REYNOLDS STICKER NORMALLY GOES
FORK-NO MARKS ,STAMPS OR LIGHT BRACKET
HANDLE BARS-ENGRAVED WITH GB AND OUTLINE OF BRITISH ISLES
HANBLE BAR BRACKET-STAMPED GB
CHAINWHEEL-NO MARKS,THREE SPOKE BOLT ON TO PEDAL ARMS
PEDAL ARMS-STAMPED NF ON INSIDE OF BOTH ARMS-KOTTER PIN TO CRANK
CRANK-STAMPED TDC #5 MADE IN ENGLAND
BOTTOM BRACKET CUPS-STAMPED TDC RIGHT CUP(CHAINWHEEL SIDE) LEFT HAND THREAD 1/4" BALLS
BOTTOM BRACKET-SERIAL X4616 MEASURES 66MM
BRAKE LEVERS-WEINMANN DIA COMPE PAT#862645 JAPAN
BRAKES FRONT CALIPER-WEINMANN 610 CENTER PULL MADE IN SWITZERLAND
BRAKES REAR CALIPER-WEINMANN 750 CENTER PULL MADE IN SWITZERLAND
DERAILLEURS,SHIFTERS-STAMPED HURET ON ALL EXCPET REAR DERAILLEURS STAMPED ALVIT
WHEELS/HUBS-NOT ORIGINAL-REAR,MAILLARD 39 89 MADE IN FRANCE,FRONT SOVOS
PEDALS-MARKED WELI OR WELT MADE IN BIRMA………
FRONT BADGE-ALLY DAWES LOGO WITH GOLD TORCH AND RED FLAME
REAR WHEEL FRAME SPACE-120MM
TIRES-ROTTED OFF
SEAT TUBE ANS SEAT CLAMP-TUBE-NO MARKS,CLAMP-MARKED MADE IN ENGLAND

Once again any help filling in the blanks is appreciated

unworthy1 08-23-06 09:55 AM

It will help enormously to see pics. But, without those, my guess is it's a Galaxy model because that's what was most common here in the US. Sort of equivalent to the Raleigh Grand Prix, and without pics and decals, I'd guess it's not 531 nor 501 tubing...especially when fitted with a Huret Alvit RD. But, I've been wrong before! I think that the most desirable item you have listed is the GB "map of England" handlebars, these are actually highly sought-after by restorers. Post pics, and the real experts can chime in.

Grand Bois 08-23-06 10:40 AM

My Dawes Galaxy was Reynolds 531. I bought it new in 1971. I only had it a week before it was stolen. I would not say that it's comparable to a Raleigh Grand Prix. I'm pretty sure that the rear derailer was a Huret Jubilee.

ENGLISH 10SPEED 08-23-06 11:08 AM

I am not very good with pictures but i will post what i can soon.
From what i have read and researched it could be late 60's early 70's but that is just an uneducated
guess based on a comparison of pictures found on the net

thanks again

unworthy1 08-23-06 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
My Dawes Galaxy was Reynolds 531. I bought it new in 1971. I only had it a week before it was stolen. I would not say that it's comparable to a Raleigh Grand Prix. I'm pretty sure that the rear derailer was a Huret Jubilee.

That's why I stick with making guesses and leave the real stuff to the experts! No offense intended to your Dawes, that was just me misremembering what the Galaxy was, and it's been around 30 years since I've seen one.

Sigurdd50 08-23-06 06:55 PM

I bought a Galaxy new in '70 or '71 at Turin Cyclery on N. Clark in chi
Mine was nicked about a year later (I was a soph in H.S.... I was crushed)
My dad bought the same bike at the same time, and at 85 he is too old to ride, so he gave it to me. I've converted it to a fixed gear. Two tone green and copper, chrome all over the front and back stays.

Most of the components that you describe fit the Galaxy of that era. GB stem and bars, the 3 bolt crank
The original Galaxy had the Delrin Simplex (plastic) derailleurs. Likely it may have busted and been replaced. Saddle was a Brooks B5N (lovely, slimmer than a B.17... I still have it). Nicely lugged frame, Reynolds 531, tho it was a bout medium weight.

As a 10 speed it got me over one long tour. As a town bike, it is so so after all these years. It makes a nice single speed... consider doing a single and ride it to the cafe.


Post a pic!
I'll see if I can post a pic of mine in the next day or so

ENGLISH 10SPEED 09-28-06 09:20 AM

8 Attachment(s)
Finally finished the rebuild of this Dawes-sorry for the crap pics
hope this helps identify it
No before pics though

Sigurdd50 09-28-06 11:23 AM

nice bike
pretty TALL (smiles)
did u repaint?
It is not what I recall of the Dawes paint design
also, it has shift levers on the stem which is not like the one's I saw in the early 70's, which had them on the down tube

ENGLISH 10SPEED 09-28-06 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Sigurdd50
nice bike
pretty TALL (smiles)
did u repaint?
It is not what I recall of the Dawes paint design
also, it has shift levers on the stem which is not like the one's I saw in the early 70's, which had them on the down tube

Thanks,yes i painted it to match the saddle(a tad self indulgent by what the hell)
The shifters are the ones that were on the bike when i got it-Huret
The rest of the gear stuff is Suntour(Thanks to Mike)


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