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raverson 12-28-06 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cudak888
If there's anything I like about late 1980's Suntour components more then anything else, it is their distinct uniqueness and quality finish (much like Campagnolo); and equally important, their general rarity. When was the last time you saw a nice machine decked out in full Sprint 9000, Ole, GPX, SL, Edge, or Radius (GPX and Sprint 9000 are both my favorites)?

Sure, you sometimes see a rear derailer or two, but a full groupset? Never. Breaks the monotony of seeing nothing but Campag Nuovo and Super Record.

-Kurt

P.S.: IMHO, the '80s Superbe Pro is just a overrated in comparison to its mechanically identical cousin, Sprint 9000. Furthermore, Sprint 9000 carries that unique, tasteful, and masterfully done grey anodized appearance that helps to pop every chrome detail out - especially on the Sprint brake calipers.

Here's one to break your monotony Kurt. :)

1989 50cm Centurion Expert with full GPX (except the wheels which had to be swapped out because the previous owner had mangled the presta valve hole on the rear trying to enlarge it to I guess accept a schrader valve)

amyd 12-28-06 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888
P.S.: IMHO, the '80s Superbe Pro is just a overrated in comparison to its mechanically identical cousin, Sprint 9000.

Functionally perhaps, but they're not identical. I've noted distinct casting differences differences between them (speaking '89 vintage) and the SB has alloy bolts and cartridge bearings in the pulleys.

lotek 12-28-06 07:56 AM

I've got a Trek 770 frame just sitting around, needing paint and components.
Rather than do the restore it back to OEM I've been collecting Cyclone
components. Not the newer Cyclone II stuff but the original top of the line prior
to superbe Cyclone. That's the most underated group out there atmo.
To be faithful I probably should hang it on a Zunow frame, damn,
just what I need another project.

marty

ollo_ollo 12-28-06 08:20 AM

Thanks so much for putting all this info together. I used NOS SunTour SL shifters and hubset on one of my bikes. I was very impressed with the overall finish quality and operation, always wondered where they fit in their lineup. Don

cudak888 12-28-06 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by amyd
Functionally perhaps, but they're not identical. I've noted distinct casting differences differences between them (speaking '89 vintage) and the SB has alloy bolts and cartridge bearings in the pulleys.

"...the '80s Superbe Pro is just a overrated in comparison to its mechanically identical cousin, Sprint 9000."

I'm quite aware that Superbe Pro is slightly different, cosmetically (and the FD and brake levers are considerably different in styling), but otherwise, they are nearly alike, in general function during performance.

If you were to have someone roadtest two roadbikes, one with Sprint 9000 and the other with Superbe - and, for argument's sake, be able to conceal the identities of each group from the rider - I dare say the rider could not tell one from the other.

Take care,

-Kurt

teambhultima 12-28-06 10:05 AM

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alk,

Thanks for starting this thread. I've been a fan of Suntour for years. The Cyclone F&RD's on my bike have worked flawlessly for many years and many miles. Like others have stated above, I'd like to find an older, complete Suntour gruppo to build up a nice bike.

Happy New Year to all!

sss 12-28-06 12:17 PM

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Thanks for the great thread!

PsySal 12-28-06 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ricardo
I use 100 percent Shimano components but the price on the actual sr suntour ones is appealing. Are there any compatibility issues? How is the quality compared to Shimano?

Ricardo

Check sheldon brown's site, I think that Suntour and SR Suntour are basically different companies, the "real" Suntour having gone out of business. SR Suntour seems to make basically low-end bike components, so they may not work as nicely as nicer shimano. I have an SR Suntour suspension fork on my MTB, it seems to do the job but it's not fancy by any stretch!

teambhultima 12-29-06 12:25 AM

Have you all seen this on eBay?
"1970 Suntour Superbe track group NOS NIB pista keirin"
Very pretty... I wish I had extra cash and an old track frame laying around!

Mhendricks 01-15-07 04:30 PM

I need a picture of the first generation Suntour Superbe Brake lever for period correct build. Thanks.

alk 01-15-07 06:04 PM

i think this is what you want.

http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/...L1_01.jpg.html

ollo_ollo 01-15-07 11:11 PM

Thanks for the info, I got a NOS wheelset with Suntour SL hubs & shifters at a swap meet, always wondered where it fit in the lineup. Don

silversmith 01-15-07 11:16 PM

I love it!

Me, I'm a big fan. I run ARX derailleurs on my favorite tourer and commuters.

I am becoming addicted to bar-cons and don't see anything prettier than my slate blue GPX platform pedals.

Then there's these XC Pro pedals I just picked up on an old Raleigh, simply superb!
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...eldt/xcpro.jpg

And my favorite, my Vitus-like Suntour Litage:
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7.../bluffbike.jpg

Mhendricks 01-16-07 12:20 PM

That is exactly what I wanted. Thanks.

sekaijin 01-17-07 01:41 PM

Alk, I saw this listing on eBay (for an 80s Suntour Perfect freewheel, almost same as mine) and thought it might interest you, since it includes a longish essay from the seller who clearly knows a fair amount about the evolution of Suntour freewheels and Suntour in general.

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Old-Stock-Su...QQcmdZViewItem

Deanster04 01-18-07 06:01 AM

Robert Hansing was the founder of Euroasia Imports in Montrose, Cal, was the westcoast importer of Suntour parts. He was the owner of Montrose Cyclery and sponsor of the Montrose Cycle Club which had a racing team that used the parts. I stuck with Campy even though I knew about the great design. The Shimano DR design owes a lot to Suntour's ideas. Sorry to say Robert passed away a few years ago. He was a smart pioneer in the cycle business and the Japanese parts world owes a lot to Bob's vision.

DieselDan 01-18-07 06:43 AM

It is so sad to see the Suntour name put on such low end, big box store crapola these days. Trek specs a new Suntour rear derailer on their 220, and a collective group of three experienced mechanics could not get that thing adjusted.


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