What's the issue with Simplex drops, DR's?
02-27-07 | 07:38 AM
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What's the issue with Simplex drops, DR's?
This is a great, but infectious forum. Browsing this board has piqued some interest in European bikes, but my knowledge of them is worse than pathetic. (Ever since the 70's, all my bikes have been Asian.) I keep seeing offhand comments to the effect that Simplex dérailleurs are required for certain dropouts on Peugeots and maybe some others. Am I reading that correctly? And if so, what's the reason for that?
02-27-07 | 08:27 AM
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https://sheldonbrown.com/velos.html
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02-27-07 | 09:46 AM
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I ran a SunTour Cyclone II rear derailleur on my 1980 PKN-10E for several years, before converting back to the original Peugeot-labeled Simplex. Both hung just fine 
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
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02-27-07 | 09:49 AM
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02-27-07 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GCRyder
This is a great, but infectious forum...And if so, what's the reason for that?
.That's an English expression, by the way. My cousins in Brum used to say that all the time
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02-27-07 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by top506
Go to:
https://sheldonbrown.com/velos.html
for a through explaination of the 'la difference' of French bikes.
Top
https://sheldonbrown.com/velos.html
for a through explaination of the 'la difference' of French bikes.
Top
02-27-07 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by East Hill
We are diabolical .
That's an English expression, by the way. My cousins in Brum used to say that all the time .
.That's an English expression, by the way. My cousins in Brum used to say that all the time
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You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
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02-27-07 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
You need at least one French bike.
No, not really. Though I have a couple, I typically HATE French bikes. Nothing ever seems to work quite right, even with a lot of fiddling. But maybe its just me.
02-27-07 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dbakl
No, not really. Though I have a couple, I typically HATE French bikes. Nothing ever seems to work quite right, even with a lot of fiddling. But maybe its just me.
i have 9 french bikes love em all .some with simplex some without . i like the simplex stuff
02-27-07 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dbakl
No, not really. Though I have a couple, I typically HATE French bikes. Nothing ever seems to work quite right, even with a lot of fiddling. But maybe its just me.
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You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
02-27-07 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
You need at least one French bike.
Peugeot U08
Peugeot U018
Peugeot PX-10 (2)
Motobecane Le Champion (2)
Motobecane Grand Jubile
08-10-09 | 07:48 PM
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Go to:
https://sheldonbrown.com/velos.html
for a through explaination of the 'la difference' of French bikes.
Top
https://sheldonbrown.com/velos.html
for a through explaination of the 'la difference' of French bikes.
Top
I am trying to get the bike back to an "all French" status, and the simplex derailleur i got for it is too small for the threads.
basically, I'm boned, right? unless i want to use the adaptor claw.... which wont attach permanently
sigh.
08-10-09 | 07:57 PM
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08-10-09 | 11:45 PM
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I'm deep into the French stuff as you can see on my bike. But like John E, I had a Suntour Cyclone II RD on this bike earlier in it's life.....then a Suntour Superbe from my brother (who I traded the Cyclone with) after that. Also had A Nouvo Record RD before these Suntours and the bike did come with a Simplex SX610 The Suntours shifted the best with the Simplex coming in a close second because of it's similar slanted parallelogram design, then the Campy NR. The present mounted Mavic 810 RD/FD was a late aquisition I got in the 90's. I still have those other derailleurs that might perform better than the Mavic, but this Mavic 810 set just looks to be the most correct system to keep on the bike for good!
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