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Old 06-20-07, 12:41 PM
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Regina 1992 Groupset - Campy? Sachs?

Check out what I just took a flyer on for $108 shipped:











Deal included:

-Crank
-BB
-Front and rear der
-7 speed DT index shifters

Everything NOS - no freewheel or chain.

Looks awfully Campy-like. Didn't Regina used to be owned by Campy?

BTW - there is another group available with the freewheel and chain - but it's $300 BIN.

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Rad - I was really tempted by those Regina parts too. If I ever see any more come up I might just throw out a bid if you snagged that set for just over a bill. Look forward to seeing better photos of everything and what you think of it when you have it in hand.
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Wow, building up the Giordana?
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
Wow, building up the Giordana?
Nope, that one has been done for the time being.

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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Nope, that one has been done for the time being.
Very nice! which hub is that?

Edit: it doesn't look like any campy I know.. maybe sachs new success?
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the crankset looks suspiciously like a Croce d'Aune. Everything else
looks unique, don't know if campy would retool for the differences.
I did a search at bikelist.org and came up empty, CR doesn't list it.

very nice find Rad, so what are you gonna put it on?

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Regina actually had 4 different gruppos in 1992 -- America, Strada, Stelvio and Enduro. 6/7 speed indexed across the board. Think they were a pretty dismal failure for them.

Right around the same time is when Campy switched to 8 speed cassettes, and their own chains. This may have been an attempt by Regina to diversify/survive.

I have a pdf of the 1992 catalog I'd be happy to send you.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad



Looks awfully Campy-like. Didn't Regina used to be owned by Campy?



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Don't recall if Regina was ever under the Campy wing, but that crank reminds me so much of another Italian make I can't quite put my finger on: Ofmega? Sachs? Miche?...it wasn't Campy, though and I seem to recall that one model of Sachs cranks were contract built by Campy. I'll guess Miche, just for grins
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Originally Posted by cyclotoine
Very nice! which hub is that?
Nexus 8 red band. Just bought an Alfine shifter from the Netherlands.

As for the Regina group, I don't have any plans for it at the moment.
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GTFO!!! Nice grab. Man that stuff would look good on my Voyageur 11.8 project, better than that bottom-of-the-food-chain Altus stuff on there now.
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Originally Posted by Talewinds
GTFO!!! Nice grab. Man that stuff would look good on my Voyageur 11.8 project, better than that bottom-of-the-food-chain Altus stuff on there now.
From what I can tell - there are 3 or 4 more sets available for $98.99. Here's one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/REGINA-AMERICA-1...QQcmdZViewItem

Good luck.
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Thanks for the heads-up, but I just can't bring myself to separate the original hardware from the bike since it's all still intact, even as lousy as it might be...
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Note the seller is banana_brain.

All too typical feedback:
Buyer: "item purchased and paid for May 12 but they did not mail until June 4"
banana_brain: "This price, DON'T COMPLAIN. We saved you a load of $ try finding it elswhere NOT"

Looks tempting but with that 'tude I believe I'll pass.
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
Don't recall if Regina was ever under the Campy wing, but that crank reminds me so much of another Italian make I can't quite put my finger on: Ofmega? Sachs? Miche?...it wasn't Campy, though and I seem to recall that one model of Sachs cranks were contract built by Campy. I'll guess Miche, just for grins
You're memory is sharp, my friend:



Regina America crankset, also known as Ofmega Linea:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-OFMEGA-LINEA-CRANKS170-c-42-52_W0QQitemZ120132765905QQihZ002QQcategoryZ56195QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


I don't recall if the rest is Ofmega or not (I'd take a stab at Sachs for the derailers, but this is a guess based on a photo I haven't seen in a while) - have to look up the photos in The Dancing Chain again...

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Originally Posted by McDave
Note the seller is banana_brain...
Aptly named fellow.

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I saw this group on a Ross Signature Series once, one of their "high-end" bikes, built under the direction of Tom Kellogg (for a couple years at least).
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Oh so tempting, so tempting just to hold for some one-off interesting build. But not sure if I can drop $108 for crank/bb/shifters and derailleurs. Hummmm... I'll have to think this one over. I still need to buy parts for my current build(s).
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Originally Posted by avenan
Regina actually had 4 different gruppos in 1992 -- America, Strada, Stelvio and Enduro. 6/7 speed indexed across the board. Think they were a pretty dismal failure for them.

Right around the same time is when Campy switched to 8 speed cassettes, and their own chains. This may have been an attempt by Regina to diversify/survive.

I have a pdf of the 1992 catalog I'd be happy to send you.
So I just bought one of these groups as well and I'd love a copy of the catalog. I'll be replacing the beat up Exage group on my girlfriends RB-2 with this shiny new stuff. Your blog has been a great source of info for Campy syncro stuff for me btw, keep it up!
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This is pretty neat, I'd pick a set up if not for other bike projects going on right now.
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Originally Posted by McDave
Note the seller is banana_brain.

All too typical feedback:
Buyer: "item purchased and paid for May 12 but they did not mail until June 4"
banana_brain: "This price, DON'T COMPLAIN. We saved you a load of $ try finding it elswhere NOT"

Looks tempting but with that 'tude I believe I'll pass.
Yes, I noticed. As long as it gets here, I don't care. Maybe this group will go on the Tete?

Actually, I have no plans for it at the moment. Just looked like an interesting deal.
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This group is tempting me too, especially since I have a 7 speed regina america freewheel sitting around.
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How do you think this would compare to Shimano 600? I have a 600 group I was going to use on a new project but I like the uniqueness of this group. If it's way inferior, I'll just pass but if comparable, I just might be able to swing this one.
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i suspect Period shimano 600 which would be shimano/ultegra is superior and that that consumables are WAY most readily available, I.e. chain and cassette/freewheel.
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My set arrived today, very nice! In the original plastic hard case with instructions and everything. In general the quality is really nice, with some slight problems with finish. Rear derailleur indexes perfectly with my cheap Sunrace 7 speed freewheel and generic 7 speed chain. Front derailleur also works very well, with quick clean shifts. The crankset and bottom bracket look fine but wont work with my italian threaded bb....





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