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Old 06-28-07, 09:38 PM
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what to do when the rear derailleur housing stop is on top

Hey, so on my pug the housing stop that runs cable from under the BB along the chainstay to the derailleur adjuster barrel is on top of the chainstay, which means that running the bare unhoused cable under the BB as I have the front derailler cable setup would lead to some weird wrap around. I've seen that some older bikes have a rear cable guide that clamps on around the bottom of the down tube and swoops the cable from one straight angle (along the down tube) to another straight angle (along the chain stay to that housing stop). What are these called and can I get one anywhere? Or is there another solution? I do have an extra clamp-on housing stop. I was trying to think of how I could use that.

You can kinda see what's going on in this pic-- again, I was trying to run that rear derailler cable under the BB, but I can't because the stop is on top of the chainstay as you can see:
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Why not just leave the rear derailleur cable routing as-is, which is a superior system? I run a hybrid system on my 1959 Capo, because the anachronistic front derailleur is designed for under-BB cable routing: both cables run through the guide at the bottom of the downtube, the rear cable goes along the top of the chainstay, as yours does, and the front cable goes under the BB shell, through an open length of cable housing. Works like a champ!

Nice Peugeot, by the way. Late 1950s PX-10?
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oh, I should've made clear that that picture is not my bike, and it is a pic of what I'm trying to get the cable to do. I wanted to know what the part is that swoops the cable from the end of the downtube, as on that pic, to the along the top of the chainstay. mine would have to wrap from around the bottom of the bb shell to the top of the chainstay because I have it routed under and not over bb shell.

Mine is a 1971, not nearly as hot as that one.
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Are you looking for a clamp-on cable router? They are pretty common - they clamp onto the seat tube just above the bb shell, and route the RD shifter cable over the top of the bb.

I've got a bagful - want one?
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I believe you need is something like this.



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Loosescrews.com also has a number of solutions:

https://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi...d=796729827785
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Or one of these: https://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-CAMAPAGN...QQcmdZViewItem
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There's also a later plastic version that's not nearly as nice as that one. Neither of them will work if you don't have a front derailer with a housing stop.
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yeah, that's exactly what I need. I take it I should lubricate it regularly?

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It shouldn't need much more lubrication than an under the bottom bracket style... In fact, they are somewhat easier to replace.
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Lubrication may do more harm than good in that spot. Dirt will cling to the cable and make it abrasive. I sometime use silicone spray lubricant there, but I don't know if it does any good.
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I always put a dab of white grease on the cable before threading it through the guide.
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Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
There's also a later plastic version that's not nearly as nice as that one. Neither of them will work if you don't have a front derailer with a housing stop.
You can use those types of cable guides with front deraileurs without a front cable stop. Either don't route the front derailleur cable through the left hand side of the stop, or use a short piece of cable housing to route the cable from the stop, down under and then up behind the BB shell. I have a photo of this setup somewhere, but my photo albumn is broken at the moment and difficult to find it.
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