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Old 02-27-17, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottybigs
My winter project is more or less complete: 1983 Schwinn Voyageur SP. Frameset courtesy of @twolve, with a full Shimano 600EX groupset (downtube shifters converted to barend using shifter pods).

I plan to add Tubus Tara lowrider racks up front, which I'll take on/off for touring. Also going to swap out the current 32c Compass tires for 35c (sticking with Compass--the best). Down the road, the Dia Compe 980 cantilever brakes will likely get replaced with VO Grand Cru Zeste brakes, provided they can handle the reach.

That is awesome Scotty! You did such a great job with the frameset, it looks amazing. I am glad to hear the initial ride reports are good. I currently have bikes with 32c and 35c compass tires. Both are exceptional.

Also, I am happy to have passed on two frames on this page in one of my favorite threads. #DQRider and #Scottybigs have made the best out of these frames.
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The Raysport Story, in a Nutshell

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I had the bike before, but only had in my hands for about a year. I bought it from somebody who built it up with a bunch of random parts.

DQRider has a great thread about this bike and finding its history, and would definitely know more than me. I believe Raysport bikes were built in Mexico, but with a British background. I don't have enough experience to say, but I'd think they are much smaller production than Raleigh, but would be comparable to the higher end Raleighs of the era.
Let's start with the builder, Ian Alsop. He has a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Alsop

He is a Scotsman, member of the British Olympic Cycling Team in 1968, Mexico City. He must have fell in love with the place because he emigrated shortly thereafter. Apparently, he is still active and competing today - I found this: https://www.strava.com/athletes/9583773

I know he runs "Alsop's Bikes" in Queretaro, Mexico now.

Anyway, sometime in the early 1970s, he was commissioned by Ray Florman Sr., owner of A1 Cycles in Saint Louis, MO, to build a line of bespoke bicycles for the shop. I know there was a Supercorsa and a Turismo, but there may have been other models. The Turismo was constructed of
"custom drawn 531 double butted tubes, Prugnat lugs, Campagnolo dropouts, and crowns that either *were * made by Cinelli, or were extremely close copies" (-John Barron, Mpls).

There's a bit more info out on the web, if you dig hard enough. A1 Cycles is now the "Billygoat Bicycle Company", run by Ray Jr. and a fellow named Dirk - I've been in contact with both of them when I began this project.

Anyway, this is what the Raysport Turismo looks like, as restored by someone named Fredric Durrette:




And these photos were taken Sunday afternoon, on Harriet Island, just before sunset:





I commuted on it yesterday, and the only thing I'm having an issue with is the toeclip overlap with the front wheel/fender. But that's something I'll get used to eventually.



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Originally Posted by DQRider
Let's start with the builder, Ian Alsop. He has a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Alsop

He is a Scotsman, member of the British Olympic Cycling Team in 1968, Mexico City. He must have fell in love with the place because he emigrated shortly thereafter. Apparently, he is still active and competing today - I found this: https://www.strava.com/athletes/9583773

I know he runs "Alsop's Bikes" in Queretaro, Mexico now.

Anyway, sometime in the early 1970s, he was commissioned by Ray Florman Sr., owner of A1 Cycles in Saint Louis, MO, to build a line of bespoke bicycles for the shop. I know there was a Supercorsa and a Turismo, but there may have been other models. The Turismo was constructed of
"custom drawn 531 double butted tubes, Prugnat lugs, Campagnolo dropouts, and crowns that either *were * made by Cinelli, or were extremely close copies" (-John Barron, Mpls).

There's a bit more info out on the web, if you dig hard enough. A1 Cycles is now the "Billygoat Bicycle Company", run by Ray Jr. and a fellow named Dirk - I've been in contact with both of them when I began this project.

Anyway, this is what the Raysport Turismo looks like, as restored by someone named Fredric Durrette:




And these photos were taken Sunday afternoon, on Harriet Island, just before sunset:





I commuted on it yesterday, and the only thing I'm having an issue with is the toeclip overlap with the front wheel/fender. But that's something I'll get used to eventually.



Fascinating history! Thank you.
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So here's three shots of my recent touring bikes. The older one is the Burgundy one. One frame/fork shot and one "in action" on the Skyline Drive. Built in 2002 and loaded toured on every couple of years since. The green bike replaces this older one. Finished last winter and intended for a cross country trip later this summer as the maiden loaded tour.


Both are built of my hand. The green one is touring frame #5 I've done. Each one has been more refined and better riding/equipped then the previous. being a life long shop wrench I am anal about the braze ons and how parts are attached. You'll see some unique bits for your efforts of looking. Andy.
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I can make out most of your braze-ons on the red frame but please give us some bigger photos of the green one.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris
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I can make out most of your braze-ons on the red frame but please give us some bigger photos of the green one.
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Here's a tease. But use this link to my Flicker album to see the frames being built and the assembled results. https://www.flickr.com/photos/731955...94060433/page1. Andy
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I'm curious about the placement of your fender mounts. What benefit does it do to have them higher like that? Is it just the shorter struts are stiffer? Something make the lines better?
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If a stick or rock caused the fender to contact the tire at it's rear end will mean the fender collapses against the tire. If the brace eye is attached tp the blade too low it's arc of movement, when forced by that object jamming in the fender, will cause the brace's fender clip end to rotate against the tire acting as a brake. The tire will stop rotating and the rider will endo over the bars. By attaching the brace to the blade further up from the drop out the new arc of brace rotation (if it were forced by a jamming object) will have the clip end rotate above the tire and not cause the wheel to stop rotating. Additionally the braces are now away from the rack's lower mounts for a cleaner set up.


I only took this potential fender acting as a wheel stopping device seriously in the last few years. Even as an old guy I try to learn from others when I can. Andy
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Newly acquired 1988 Miyata 615. Not bad as-is, but I have a host of upgrades in mind. So these would be the "before" pics:

https://goo.gl/photos/YykhHC1uLwewhRHY8
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Thanks for the photo link.
What is the reason for mounting the rear rack to the dropout and a little higher up the seat stay?
The two spool-shaped bosses on the bottom of the down tube are extra water bottle bosses holding the bottle and cage proud of the cables?
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Originally Posted by johnnyace
Newly acquired 1988 Miyata 615. Not bad as-is, but I have a host of upgrades in mind. So these would be the "before" pics:

https://goo.gl/photos/YykhHC1uLwewhRHY8
Cool! I'll be watching your build with interest, as I was just given an early Miyata 1000 as a "box-o-bike" project. The PO did a hideous brush-on paint job that plugged most of the braze-ons and stuck the drive-side cup of the bottom bracket in place. What was he thinking?

Still, the price was right; I can strip all this goop off there and start over. That will be my project for next winter. I'm thinking of going 1x10 with a Deore XT derailleur and 34t drop-stop chainring I acquired in a trade. I've done cold-setting and realignment before, so that won't be an issue. Then maybe trekking bars? Brooks Flyer? So many possibilities with these old touring frames...

Please keep us posted with your progress.
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Originally Posted by DQRider
Cool! I'll be watching your build with interest, as I was just given an early Miyata 1000 as a "box-o-bike" project...

Please keep us posted with your progress.
Here's my build thread for the Miyata 615:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...c-touring.html
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So many beautiful bikes in this thread!
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Originally Posted by obrentharris
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Thanks for the photo link.
What is the reason for mounting the rear rack to the dropout and a little higher up the seat stay?
The two spool-shaped bosses on the bottom of the down tube are extra water bottle bosses holding the bottle and cage proud of the cables?
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The rack stay boss is on the dropout as usual. The fender stay is either behind or above the rack strut. One bolt one job. The under down tube hour glass braze ones are for the fuel bottle cage. A toe clip strap helps to secure the weight from bending the cage open. Andy.
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
The rack stay boss is on the dropout as usual. The fender stay is either behind or above the rack strut. One bolt one job. The under down tube hour glass braze ones are for the fuel bottle cage. A toe clip strap helps to secure the weight from bending the cage open. Andy.
You're a talented man. I just perused your flickr album. Nice work.
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Frame made by Fuji in '90 for an adventure touring vacation company. Almost identical to the Fuji Saratoga. Built it up with a mix of new and gently used components.
These are from a short 3 day tour along The Katy.



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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
Here's a tease. But use this link to my Flicker album to see the frames being built and the assembled results. https://www.flickr.com/photos/731955...94060433/page1. Andy
Sorry I missed this a few months ago-

Exceptional!!!
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
Sorry I missed this a few months ago-

Exceptional!!!


And in about 4 months i'll be loading up to Flicker the tour shots from my cross country attempt. Next Saturday I fly out to Portland OR for the start. These two bikes and a lot of gear are half way there via Bikeflights.com. Andy.
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That is the crank that BELONGED with the Cyclone stuff! It should have been badged Cyclone! D:
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
And in about 4 months i'll be loading up to Flicker the tour shots from my cross country attempt. Next Saturday I fly out to Portland OR for the start. These two bikes and a lot of gear are half way there via Bikeflights.com. Andy.
Looking forward to the scenery pix!!!
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Another awesome thread that could use a bump, and it's an excuse to post some updated pics of my baby!

So here she is. My 1984 Centurion Elite GT 15! It's a work in progress, but it's getting there!

(Note: I have changed the cable routing since these pics were taken so that the rear brake cable now crosses over the front cable above the stem.)









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not really vintage but...

just bought the frame this summer but you wouldnt know it except for the 631 decals. its used for touring and commuting. i'll ride this one for the rest of my life.
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A gratuitous re-post, since my original one got censored by the Photobucket Apocalypse.

1979 Centurion Pro Tour


1982 Specialized Sequoia (that's the frame from Tarwheel's post #1762, mostly rebuilt with stock components).


1983 Motobecane Grand Touring
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A gratuitous re-post, since my original one got censored by the Photobucket Apocalypse.

1979 Centurion Pro Tour


1982 Specialized Sequoia (that's the frame from Tarwheel's post #1762, mostly rebuilt with stock components).


1983 Motobecane Grand Touring
Brilliant bikes, all. As far as the "Photobucket Apocalypse. ", I propose we rename them "Pee-Bucket"


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