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05-15-18, 11:35 AM
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I don't know what year your bike is- but I'm assuming *around* 1990-
Until getting my 1990 Miyata 1000LT- I don't think I appreciated the difference in stiffness in a vintage touring frame. I have an 84 Voyageur SP, and 85 Trek 720 and 85 Trek 620. They're sorta similar- it's riding a cushy steel bike. But the Miyata 1000LT has 4+ years of development and technology- and you can really tell the difference in the ride- it's much more stiff- it feels more stable- not that the other bikes don't feel stable- but there's "give" to them that the Miyata doesn't have. I haven't had the 1000 out for a big multi-day ride- but I can see this being more capable of more carrying capacity.
My guess is your 615 is more similar/identical to my 1000LT than it is the grand touring bikes of the mid 80s. As much as I love my mid-80s grand tourers, the concept and technology kept evolving and that later bikes benefitted from that. It looks like you've outfitted your bike with newer parts- I'm assuming quality parts- I think it would be a great choice to ride that bike.
Until getting my 1990 Miyata 1000LT- I don't think I appreciated the difference in stiffness in a vintage touring frame. I have an 84 Voyageur SP, and 85 Trek 720 and 85 Trek 620. They're sorta similar- it's riding a cushy steel bike. But the Miyata 1000LT has 4+ years of development and technology- and you can really tell the difference in the ride- it's much more stiff- it feels more stable- not that the other bikes don't feel stable- but there's "give" to them that the Miyata doesn't have. I haven't had the 1000 out for a big multi-day ride- but I can see this being more capable of more carrying capacity.
My guess is your 615 is more similar/identical to my 1000LT than it is the grand touring bikes of the mid 80s. As much as I love my mid-80s grand tourers, the concept and technology kept evolving and that later bikes benefitted from that. It looks like you've outfitted your bike with newer parts- I'm assuming quality parts- I think it would be a great choice to ride that bike.
my 615 is an 87” and has that revered miyata triple butted splined tubing. The bike is outfitted with mostly velo orange and rivendell(nitto) parts, nothing original but the frame. I dont have any doubts in the quality of my bike, but i also have a bit stouter vintage mtbs that can easily convert into a tourer. I feel with the tubing quality the miyata shouldnt have any problems with a full load.
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All My Old Posts Are Dead - Thanks Pee Bucket!
But that's OK, it gives me an excuse to post my latest pics of my Vintage Touring Bikes.
You have seen this bike before, but she underwent a makeover for this year's Lake Pepin 3-Speed Tour. Now a bit sportier with wider tires, sans fenders, and I flipped the handlebar for a more balanced riding position. Here's my Raysport Turismo "Light Roadster":
Then there is my mid-`80s Raleigh Wyoming, done in a similar style. This photo was taken yesterday (Sunday) morning on a 60 mile ride to Stillwater, MN and back home:
And finally, here is my all-terrain touring bike, a Peugeot Orient Express:
I have another vintage touring bike in-process right now - soda blasting the 531 frameset and prepping it for paint. It is a first generation Raleigh Super Course, which is going to get a Sturmey-Archer AW (3-speed) conversion, along with the chainguard and bamboo fenders from my old Fuji Royale roadster. Gone are the cottered crank and all the other heavy steel bits. I replaced them with sealed alloy BB, headset, and crankset. A Brooks Flyer saddle and Northroads style handlebar will fill out the spec. This should be a very classy ride when I'm through. Pics in about a month or so.
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You have seen this bike before, but she underwent a makeover for this year's Lake Pepin 3-Speed Tour. Now a bit sportier with wider tires, sans fenders, and I flipped the handlebar for a more balanced riding position. Here's my Raysport Turismo "Light Roadster":
Then there is my mid-`80s Raleigh Wyoming, done in a similar style. This photo was taken yesterday (Sunday) morning on a 60 mile ride to Stillwater, MN and back home:
And finally, here is my all-terrain touring bike, a Peugeot Orient Express:
I have another vintage touring bike in-process right now - soda blasting the 531 frameset and prepping it for paint. It is a first generation Raleigh Super Course, which is going to get a Sturmey-Archer AW (3-speed) conversion, along with the chainguard and bamboo fenders from my old Fuji Royale roadster. Gone are the cottered crank and all the other heavy steel bits. I replaced them with sealed alloy BB, headset, and crankset. A Brooks Flyer saddle and Northroads style handlebar will fill out the spec. This should be a very classy ride when I'm through. Pics in about a month or so.
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I just took a look at it.
Amazing job 'The Golden Boy'.
What a terrific ride!
Are you still enjoying it?
That bar tape looks great.
Could you share what it is?
Over the years I had 2 or perhaps 3 sets of Command shifters (now sold)
and they worked well for me.
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Here is my 1986 Schwinn Passage I picked up last year.
I have owned a handful of great touring bikes over the years and toured on a couple of them loaded to the gills.
I have been surprised by this Passage.
If I understand correctly it was only made one year.
It is a remarkably nice riding bike.
It was built with a Columbus Tenax tube set according to the decal.
Online information I found says it was made in Schwinn's Mississippi factory.
I am enjoying it a lot.
I have owned a handful of great touring bikes over the years and toured on a couple of them loaded to the gills.
I have been surprised by this Passage.
If I understand correctly it was only made one year.
It is a remarkably nice riding bike.
It was built with a Columbus Tenax tube set according to the decal.
Online information I found says it was made in Schwinn's Mississippi factory.
I am enjoying it a lot.
06-05-18, 06:26 AM
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I just mentioned the Suntour Command shifters of yesteryear on The Golden Boy's beautiful Trek.
Looking around on the net afterwards ,
low and behold it looks like Dia Compe is bringing back a similar wing shifter.
I look forward to seeing the price point on them.
https://www.diacompe.com.tw/
https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://diacompe.longwang.com.tw/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016A4.pdf
Looking around on the net afterwards ,
low and behold it looks like Dia Compe is bringing back a similar wing shifter.
I look forward to seeing the price point on them.
https://www.diacompe.com.tw/
https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://diacompe.longwang.com.tw/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016A4.pdf
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Ooh, those would be great. I wonder if they'd be indexed or friction (or some sort of microratchet). Color me very intrigued.
Edit: durr, says index right on the picture. It's also listed as in the new for 2017 catalog, so who knows if it's ever going to come out.
Edit: durr, says index right on the picture. It's also listed as in the new for 2017 catalog, so who knows if it's ever going to come out.
06-05-18, 07:09 AM
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Here is my 1986 Schwinn Passage I picked up last year.
I have owned a handful of great touring bikes over the years and toured on a couple of them loaded to the gills.
I have been surprised by this Passage.
If I understand correctly it was only made one year.
It is a remarkably nice riding bike.
It was built with a Columbus Tenax tube set according to the decal.
Online information I found says it was made in Schwinn's Mississippi factory.
I am enjoying it a lot.
I have owned a handful of great touring bikes over the years and toured on a couple of them loaded to the gills.
I have been surprised by this Passage.
If I understand correctly it was only made one year.
It is a remarkably nice riding bike.
It was built with a Columbus Tenax tube set according to the decal.
Online information I found says it was made in Schwinn's Mississippi factory.
I am enjoying it a lot.
06-05-18, 03:43 PM
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Ok, even though this post was from Dec 2016
I just took a look at it.
Amazing job 'The Golden Boy'.
What a terrific ride!
Are you still enjoying it?
That bar tape looks great.
Could you share what it is?
Over the years I had 2 or perhaps 3 sets of Command shifters (now sold)
and they worked well for me.
I just took a look at it.
Amazing job 'The Golden Boy'.
What a terrific ride!
Are you still enjoying it?
That bar tape looks great.
Could you share what it is?
Over the years I had 2 or perhaps 3 sets of Command shifters (now sold)
and they worked well for me.
I just mentioned the Suntour Command shifters of yesteryear on The Golden Boy's beautiful Trek.
Looking around on the net afterwards ,
low and behold it looks like Dia Compe is bringing back a similar wing shifter.
I look forward to seeing the price point on them.
DIA-COMPE
https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vie.../09/2016A4.pdf
Looking around on the net afterwards ,
low and behold it looks like Dia Compe is bringing back a similar wing shifter.
I look forward to seeing the price point on them.
DIA-COMPE
https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vie.../09/2016A4.pdf
Thank you!
I still have it and ride it. It's tough to call between this, the 620 and the Miyata 1000LT.
The bar tape is the OLD Bontrager Gel Cork tape. They no longer make it like this. I've seen a few places still have it over in Europe- but no one I've found ships to the US. I like the patterning in the Bontrager tape from this time period- the little "b" logos are like little golf ball divots. I have a few rolls of white left- but none of the brown.
Regarding the Command Shifters... this is the first I've seen of an official 10/11 speed Command Shifter- On my 720, I have an indexing ring made to replace the Accushift ring- so my Command Shifters index perfectly on a Shimano 10 speed cassette with Shimano derailleurs. As thrilled as I am to see the new Command Shifters- I think the original ones are nicer looking!
IMG_0063 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
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I have another vintage touring bike in-process right now - soda blasting the 531 frameset and prepping it for paint. It is a first generation Raleigh Super Course, which is going to get a Sturmey-Archer AW (3-speed) conversion, along with the chainguard and bamboo fenders from my old Fuji Royale roadster. Gone are the cottered crank and all the other heavy steel bits. I replaced them with sealed alloy BB, headset, and crankset. A Brooks Flyer saddle and Northroads style handlebar will fill out the spec. This should be a very classy ride when I'm through. Pics in about a month or so.
I had to double-check CL to see if this was the Super Course you were talking about since it's a prime repaint candidate.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...594737857.html
You can see from the background of the tubing label, it was once green.
06-05-18, 05:06 PM
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This is my 1986 Schwinn Voyageur. I haven't been on BF in a while but I saw this post when I got on, and I'm probably selling this bicycle tomorrow via craigslist. This is one of my dream bikes but this thing is simply too big. Hopefully someday I will have a 56cm version from this same year. 
06-05-18, 07:55 PM
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I also like my Trek 400t but the 620 seems to have a specially nice ride.
06-05-18, 09:27 PM
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Here is a Bridgestone Eurasia Diagonales EAG - D2 (May 1982 according to T-Mar helpful system).
I found it in Phnom Penh, Cambodia where I live - it must have been imported from Japan where someone had turned it into a flat bar city bike. It has the original owners address painted on the frame, I might send a letter and see what happens. I stripped it down and fixed it up as best I could according to the catalogue. The saddle was replaced with a San Marco Supercorsa which is not correct (not tourey) and probably only a few years out; the handlebars are a little more compact than I would like but they are Nitto; the mudguards are second hand and plastic (should they be stainless?) and the front rack was cobbled together by a resourceful Cambodian bike mechanic! The rest is pretty original (I think) Nitto Technomic stem, Dia compe 960 cantilevers, Sugino Super Maxy Crankset, SR SP150 pedals, Suntour V groupset, shimano hubs (is that correct?) with Araya rims.
Anyway, I am pretty happy with it considering how hard it can be getting parts and larger bikes here in Cambodia.
How I found it
And after I have fixed it up
I found it in Phnom Penh, Cambodia where I live - it must have been imported from Japan where someone had turned it into a flat bar city bike. It has the original owners address painted on the frame, I might send a letter and see what happens. I stripped it down and fixed it up as best I could according to the catalogue. The saddle was replaced with a San Marco Supercorsa which is not correct (not tourey) and probably only a few years out; the handlebars are a little more compact than I would like but they are Nitto; the mudguards are second hand and plastic (should they be stainless?) and the front rack was cobbled together by a resourceful Cambodian bike mechanic! The rest is pretty original (I think) Nitto Technomic stem, Dia compe 960 cantilevers, Sugino Super Maxy Crankset, SR SP150 pedals, Suntour V groupset, shimano hubs (is that correct?) with Araya rims.
Anyway, I am pretty happy with it considering how hard it can be getting parts and larger bikes here in Cambodia.
How I found it
And after I have fixed it up
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I like that Mariposa--especially the cool lighting/wiring provisions--not common.
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Beautiful, classy bikes DQRider!
I had to double-check CL to see if this was the Super Course you were talking about since it's a prime repaint candidate.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...594737857.html
You can see from the background of the tubing label, it was once green.
I had to double-check CL to see if this was the Super Course you were talking about since it's a prime repaint candidate.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...594737857.html
You can see from the background of the tubing label, it was once green.
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Oh man, that's a better deal than I got - and the paint is in better shape! The one I bought was from a low-end flipper in MPLS, a guy who TALKS REAL LOUD! It is bronze-green with a lot of scratches and scrapes. I'm in the process of soda-blasting it, but my compressor is old and weak, so I may have to switch to chemicals instead. The paint job I have planned for it is going to be epic; very Ye Olde English - dark Hunter Green with Creme head tube and ST panel. I can't wait to roll it out...
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06-06-18, 02:48 PM
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Here is a Bridgestone Eurasia Diagonales EAG - D2 (May 1982 according to T-Mar helpful system).
I found it in Phnom Penh, Cambodia where I live - it must have been imported from Japan where someone had turned it into a flat bar city bike. It has the original owners address painted on the frame, I might send a letter and see what happens. I stripped it down and fixed it up as best I could according to the catalogue. The saddle was replaced with a San Marco Supercorsa which is not correct (not tourey) and probably only a few years out; the handlebars are a little more compact than I would like but they are Nitto; the mudguards are second hand and plastic (should they be stainless?) and the front rack was cobbled together by a resourceful Cambodian bike mechanic! The rest is pretty original (I think) Nitto Technomic stem, Dia compe 960 cantilevers, Sugino Super Maxy Crankset, SR SP150 pedals, Suntour V groupset, shimano hubs (is that correct?) with Araya rims.
Anyway, I am pretty happy with it considering how hard it can be getting parts and larger bikes here in Cambodia.
And after I have fixed it up
I found it in Phnom Penh, Cambodia where I live - it must have been imported from Japan where someone had turned it into a flat bar city bike. It has the original owners address painted on the frame, I might send a letter and see what happens. I stripped it down and fixed it up as best I could according to the catalogue. The saddle was replaced with a San Marco Supercorsa which is not correct (not tourey) and probably only a few years out; the handlebars are a little more compact than I would like but they are Nitto; the mudguards are second hand and plastic (should they be stainless?) and the front rack was cobbled together by a resourceful Cambodian bike mechanic! The rest is pretty original (I think) Nitto Technomic stem, Dia compe 960 cantilevers, Sugino Super Maxy Crankset, SR SP150 pedals, Suntour V groupset, shimano hubs (is that correct?) with Araya rims.
Anyway, I am pretty happy with it considering how hard it can be getting parts and larger bikes here in Cambodia.
And after I have fixed it up
Your bike is representative of taking a bike and making it yours. I really dig it.
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Here is my 1986 Schwinn Passage I picked up last year.
I have owned a handful of great touring bikes over the years and toured on a couple of them loaded to the gills.
I have been surprised by this Passage.
If I understand correctly it was only made one year.
It is a remarkably nice riding bike.
It was built with a Columbus Tenax tube set according to the decal.
Online information I found says it was made in Schwinn's Mississippi factory.
I am enjoying it a lot.
I have owned a handful of great touring bikes over the years and toured on a couple of them loaded to the gills.
I have been surprised by this Passage.
If I understand correctly it was only made one year.
It is a remarkably nice riding bike.
It was built with a Columbus Tenax tube set according to the decal.
Online information I found says it was made in Schwinn's Mississippi factory.
I am enjoying it a lot.
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06-06-18, 06:19 PM
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'83 Schwinn Voyageur SP, getting lots of use this season
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I have been staring at this bike for a while- I love what you've done with it. It looks to be beautiful, yet utilitarian rider. You should get many many miles on that bike. I LOVE the crank set and I'm intrigued by the "cobbled together" rack.
Your bike is representative of taking a bike and making it yours. I really dig it.
Your bike is representative of taking a bike and making it yours. I really dig it.
Thanks Golden Boy - this is an image of the bike from the 1982 catalogue. I tried to get it as close as possible.
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Here is a Bridgestone Eurasia Diagonales EAG - D2 (May 1982 according to T-Mar helpful system).
I found it in Phnom Penh, Cambodia where I live - it must have been imported from Japan where someone had turned it into a flat bar city bike. It has the original owners address painted on the frame, I might send a letter and see what happens. I stripped it down and fixed it up as best I could according to the catalogue. The saddle was replaced with a San Marco Supercorsa which is not correct (not tourey) and probably only a few years out; the handlebars are a little more compact than I would like but they are Nitto; the mudguards are second hand and plastic (should they be stainless?) and the front rack was cobbled together by a resourceful Cambodian bike mechanic! The rest is pretty original (I think) Nitto Technomic stem, Dia compe 960 cantilevers, Sugino Super Maxy Crankset, SR SP150 pedals, Suntour V groupset, shimano hubs (is that correct?) with Araya rims.
Anyway, I am pretty happy with it considering how hard it can be getting parts and larger bikes here in Cambodia.
How I found it
And after I have fixed it up
I found it in Phnom Penh, Cambodia where I live - it must have been imported from Japan where someone had turned it into a flat bar city bike. It has the original owners address painted on the frame, I might send a letter and see what happens. I stripped it down and fixed it up as best I could according to the catalogue. The saddle was replaced with a San Marco Supercorsa which is not correct (not tourey) and probably only a few years out; the handlebars are a little more compact than I would like but they are Nitto; the mudguards are second hand and plastic (should they be stainless?) and the front rack was cobbled together by a resourceful Cambodian bike mechanic! The rest is pretty original (I think) Nitto Technomic stem, Dia compe 960 cantilevers, Sugino Super Maxy Crankset, SR SP150 pedals, Suntour V groupset, shimano hubs (is that correct?) with Araya rims.
Anyway, I am pretty happy with it considering how hard it can be getting parts and larger bikes here in Cambodia.
How I found it
And after I have fixed it up
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Bikes: 1978 Trek TX700; 1978/79 Trek 736; 1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP; 1985 Trek 620; 1985 Trek 720; 1986 Trek 400 Elance; 1987 Schwinn High Sierra; 1990 Miyata 1000LT
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My opinions have kind of changed about these bikes, in relation to each other and the other bikes that I own and ride regularly.
My 620 is the 1985 version that's really similar to the 720 (meaning they both have the 47cm chainstays). Without going too far, they're both very similar- and I think a lot of that has to do with the outrageously long chainstays. I've had different builds on both of these bikes- the 620 is the bike I've put the most miles on, and I've had minimal variation on this build for 5+ years or so. With the 720, I've only had it for less than 4 years and I rebuilt it regularly with different derailleurs and shifting and brakes and stuff... Most recently, I rebuilt the 720 as a "retro-mod" with a 10 speed rear end with a bevy of "modern" parts. I used to think that the 620 was heavier- that it felt heavier. I don't think that's true anymore. I have 2 wheel sets that I swap on the 620- a 40 spoke Phil Wood/Super Champion and an Avocet/Super Champion setup. The more I ride the 720, and the more I compare it to the 620, it seems that the 620 actually seems to feel lighter in the rear end, and seems to be a little more compliant. That's totally not what I'd expect out of these bikes- I'd expect the 531/CrMo bike to be heavier.
As far as comparing the tourers with a Trek 400- I do have a 1986 Trek 400 Elance that I've added a triple to and upgraded to be "tour-y."
. I think the front end of my 400 is more compliant, and the rear end more stiff- than either of the Trek tourers. One of these days I'll do more of a writeup in it's own thread.
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
07-23-18, 08:48 AM
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New project
Here’s a teaser shot for my new project ☺️