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Old 07-15-07, 10:04 AM
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Peugeot P8 -- Year? Price? Brake Levers?

I just had a single-speed Peugeot put together at a used bike shop because I fell in love with the frame, but I'm a beginner. After getting it home, I'm pretty sure that it's a P8 -- after all, it does say P8 on the serial sticker, which the bike shop told me they couldn't find when I asked about it. It's Carbolite 103. Now that I know this is on the lower end, I'm a little disappointed about how much I paid. They put new Weinmann double-walled rims (LP18) on it. The crank says "S French" on it, I tried to find some pictures of Simplex cranks to see if they had the same markings, with no luck. Rear brake says "Hi-Stop" and something that looks like "JeonTeon" (scratched), but from what Google tells me, I'm getting a lot of results for coaster brakes and brake lights.(??) Front brake is Schwinn, tires are Hutchinson, hubs say "S" (Shimano?)

I love the bike and it rides really smoothly, but I'm wondering a few things:

Can anybody give me more information on the frame? I'd particularly like to know the year. The serial # is 3367552, it says "P8 50" below the serial #.

I really like this bike shop, and I think they did great work on the bike. However, I'm afraid that they overcharged me because I knew so little about bikes when I went in. How much would you expect to pay for this bike, considering that they put a lot of work into it building it back up? I'll post how much I paid in a reply once I get some responses, but I just don't want to affect anyone's judgment quite yet.

Also, I can post about this in another thread as well, but does anyone have any brake lever suggestions? I'm a pretty small person, and I find that I can't safely engage the brake with my hands in an upper position on the handlebar. It is extremely uncomfortable for me to apply the brake from the hook in the drop bar, but that's the only way that I can stop the bike quickly and fully. As it is, I'm having to extend my hand completely to use the levers at all, and I don't have enough strength in my fingers to cause anything more than a long skid -- and it hurts! I do NOT want a straight handlebar.

(Forgive my terminology and any mistakes/omissions in this post -- I'm a fast learner, I swear.)


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Old 07-15-07, 10:40 AM
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Well, I am a complete noob as well, so I can't answer any of your questions, but I'm interested to know how much you paid for everything since I am attempting to do the exact same thing as you. (Find an older bike to fix up.)

I will say that your brakes seem to be placed kind of high. Not that I would know, but it does look like it would be uncomfortable to brake in that position.
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Old 07-15-07, 11:38 AM
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First, if you move the brakes down the curve of the bar you will find them much easier to pull. If they are so hard to pull that they hurt there is something wrong with the brake or cables.

I'm not sure if you want advice on the price of the whole bike or just the conversion. If you brought them the bike and they converted it, I would say, wheels $100, tires 30, levers 30, cables 20, freewheel 15, tape 10...it can get expensive, even when doing it on the cheep. So I say $200 not including the bike for the conversion, plus another $150 for the pre-conversion bike (retail prices).

That said, almost every conversion or re-build I have done ends up costing $350-500 total by the time I'm done whether I'm trying to do it inexpensive or just building what I want.

It's a cool bike and the full conversion (wheels, etc) means you will get 1000s of miles out of this bike.

I would take it back to the shop and ask them to move the levers and see what they say about it being too hard to pull them. That and get one of those spring hand exercisers that were cool in the 70s
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First of all, you have a nice bike and it looks as though you like it. I say ride it and enjoy it and don't worry too much about how much you paid.

Frankly, you probably paid way too much by the standards on this forum. The Holy Grail is finding a pristine, all original chrome Paramount track bike (for example) at the dump and then using your own bike tools to tune/sort it yourself. Price paid: zero. You have a lot of do it yourselfers here that love to wrench on bike and score the occasional find of the day. So, in that context, buying a frame at an LBS and then having them source parts for you and then build it up, is always going to cost more than you want -- noob or not.

Now, going forward, get a good bicycle mechanics book, a few good tools (e.g., crank puller, chainwhip, etc.) and, when in doubt, ask questions on this forum before you buy and you'll be much more informed.

Don't be hard on yourself with the price, it's a nice bike that you can enjoy for quite a while.

On the brakes, you might want to go with a top bar style brake lever(s). Try Paul Components -- expensive but good quality. And make sure you know your bar diameter before you buy (Tool needed: Calipers).
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Old 07-15-07, 11:53 AM
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Probably an '85 could be an '84. It depends on the fork. If you post a pic of the the side of the fork crown showing the lion and crown I should be able to tell you which year it is.
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Thanks so much. I'm not really obsessing over the price, just curious about it. I'm really happy with the bike, besides this brake issue, and I respect the shop and want to pay them well. They charged $250 for parts and $200 for labor, and I picked out the frame at the shop and then they put their own parts on it. They were already planning to build it up as a single speed and sell it.

I'm definitely trying to learn how to do all of this on my own, with the help of this forum!

To hexenmeister & swen -- originally the handlebars were tilted downwards about an inch, but I adjusted them to try to help the brake issue. Obviously it didn't help. To PBR (or anyone): what about interrupter brake levers? For now, I feel much more comfortable holding onto the top/middle of the bar anyway. Pros/cons?

And Miami Jim -- here's a couple of pictures of the fork crown. Thanks for your help!



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