Ishiwata 024 Ross?
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Ishiwata 024 Ross?
Here is a ross frame i picked up for $25. It has ishiwata 024 tubing. is this a high end tubing/bike/frame?
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Originally Posted by laman012
Here is a ross frame i picked up for $25. It has ishiwata 024 tubing. is this a high end tubing/bike/frame?
thank you
ladule
thank you
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Ishiwata 024 was seamless chrome-moly tubing, slightly heavier gauge than the more common 022 tubing:
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Harking back eight years, I would agree with unworthy1. Ross used 024 tubing on their top (or...nearly top if you can find the super unicorns above it) 294S Signature model, of which I have. Hand-built in PA, all that. Ride is sublime, and the bike came in at 23 lbs ready to ride (25" / 64cm frame, no less).
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Ishiwata 024 was seamless chrome-moly tubing, slightly heavier gauge than the more common 022 tubing:
I found this post from T-Mar on bike-air from 2007... he says 27.0. The math doesn't make sense to me. 28.6 minus 2x.7 = 27.2, righ? https://www.bike-air.com/Help-ID-ing-..._10395024.html
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08-02-16, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
How should I read this for seat post diameters? I have an 024 bike now with no post.
I found this post from T-Mar on bike-air from 2007... he says 27.0. The math doesn't make sense to me. 28.6 minus 2x.7 = 27.2, righ? Help ID'ing Ishiwata frame
I found this post from T-Mar on bike-air from 2007... he says 27.0. The math doesn't make sense to me. 28.6 minus 2x.7 = 27.2, righ? Help ID'ing Ishiwata frame
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While the main tubes are Isiwata 024, the presence of stamped dropouts indicate that the stays and forks are almost certainly hi-tensile steel which compromises the weight, ride quality and level of the bicycle. The remaining components appear to be mostly upper entry level, with a swaged crankset, steel headset, non-micro-adjust post, etc. I'd say this bicycle was just above the cusp of entry level and mid-range during it's era.
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I had a similar Ross Paragon, but it was probably a higher quality build as it had forged dropouts and the seat stay caps were nicer. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...s-paragon.html
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Originally Posted by busdriver1959
Your math is good but you now want to subtract .2 from 27.2 so the seatpost will have just a little extra room to allow it to slide in and out.
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
Harking back eight years, I would agree with unworthy1. Ross used 024 tubing on their top (or...nearly top if you can find the super unicorns above it) 294S Signature model, of which I have. Hand-built in PA, all that. Ride is sublime, and the bike came in at 23 lbs ready to ride (25" / 64cm frame, no less).
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Originally Posted by danco
My 1982 Ross Super Gran Tour XV has the heavy duty touring spec I****awa 024 tubing. It was their top quality (and price) calalog model with the exception of the hand built "Signatures." It is a fabulous 15-speed ride. Just my opinion.
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I’ve recently acquired a beautiful, like new, Ross Super Gran Tour XV, and I completely concur- It’s a truly beautiful bike, and the fact that these were made with the same tubing as my 3Rensho (but with a touring spec tube) and a full Shimano 600 Arabesque group (with a triple) makes these an amazing bargain on the used market.
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Originally Posted by kantquit
It’s hard to find a Ross as nice as yours,looks like it just came from the showroom. Mine is similar different model not as perfect for sure
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I'd keep the old tubes if there are no problems with them. We sold one of those in the bike shop that I worked. I was the one that put it together. This was not an easy bike to sell with a shop that had Schwinn, Panasonic and Fuji bikes. This bike provided value. The color set it off as more of a mature adult bike, because back then almost all the colors were bright or metallic or nicely finished black . This color was called Taupe. With the brown accents on the cable housing and bar tape, and gold lettering, it was different but nice.
There are three other things I remember about that bike:
1. It had the "C" shaped front fork ends as all companies were exploring the best answer to the wheel cannot fall out if the quick release is not tight issue.
2. It had the seat stay ends crimped
3. And it was a big step for CBC (Chain Bike Corp.) to go up market into the competitive segment occupied by so many more recognizable brands at the time. At this time they hired Tom Kellogg for their high end bikes.
Enjoy the bike. I don't remember how it rode, but it has some good pedigree even if many don't recognize it as a good bike. And, of course the condition is outstanding.
There are three other things I remember about that bike:
1. It had the "C" shaped front fork ends as all companies were exploring the best answer to the wheel cannot fall out if the quick release is not tight issue.
2. It had the seat stay ends crimped
3. And it was a big step for CBC (Chain Bike Corp.) to go up market into the competitive segment occupied by so many more recognizable brands at the time. At this time they hired Tom Kellogg for their high end bikes.
Enjoy the bike. I don't remember how it rode, but it has some good pedigree even if many don't recognize it as a good bike. And, of course the condition is outstanding.
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Originally Posted by Velo Mule
I'd keep the old tubes if there are no problems with them. We sold one of those in the bike shop that I worked. I was the one that put it together. This was not an easy bike to sell with a shop that had Schwinn, Panasonic and Fuji bikes. This bike provided value. The color set it off as more of a mature adult bike, because back then almost all the colors were bright or metallic or nicely finished black . This color was called Taupe. With the brown accents on the cable housing and bar tape, and gold lettering, it was different but nice.
There are three other things I remember about that bike:
1. It had the "C" shaped front fork ends as all companies were exploring the best answer to the wheel cannot fall out if the quick release is not tight issue.
2. It had the seat stay ends crimped
3. And it was a big step for CBC (Chain Bike Corp.) to go up market into the competitive segment occupied by so many more recognizable brands at the time. At this time they hired Tom Kellogg for their high end bikes.
Enjoy the bike. I don't remember how it rode, but it has some good pedigree even if many don't recognize it as a good bike. And, of course the condition is outstanding.
There are three other things I remember about that bike:
1. It had the "C" shaped front fork ends as all companies were exploring the best answer to the wheel cannot fall out if the quick release is not tight issue.
2. It had the seat stay ends crimped
3. And it was a big step for CBC (Chain Bike Corp.) to go up market into the competitive segment occupied by so many more recognizable brands at the time. At this time they hired Tom Kellogg for their high end bikes.
Enjoy the bike. I don't remember how it rode, but it has some good pedigree even if many don't recognize it as a good bike. And, of course the condition is outstanding.
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Originally Posted by Velo Mule
I'd keep the old tubes if there are no problems with them. We sold one of those in the bike shop that I worked. I was the one that put it together. This was not an easy bike to sell with a shop that had Schwinn, Panasonic and Fuji bikes. This bike provided value. The color set it off as more of a mature adult bike, because back then almost all the colors were bright or metallic or nicely finished black . This color was called Taupe. With the brown accents on the cable housing and bar tape, and gold lettering, it was different but nice.
There are three other things I remember about that bike:
1. It had the "C" shaped front fork ends as all companies were exploring the best answer to the wheel cannot fall out if the quick release is not tight issue.
2. It had the seat stay ends crimped
3. And it was a big step for CBC (Chain Bike Corp.) to go up market into the competitive segment occupied by so many more recognizable brands at the time. At this time they hired Tom Kellogg for their high end bikes.
Enjoy the bike. I don't remember how it rode, but it has some good pedigree even if many don't recognize it as a good bike. And, of course the condition is outstanding.
There are three other things I remember about that bike:
1. It had the "C" shaped front fork ends as all companies were exploring the best answer to the wheel cannot fall out if the quick release is not tight issue.
2. It had the seat stay ends crimped
3. And it was a big step for CBC (Chain Bike Corp.) to go up market into the competitive segment occupied by so many more recognizable brands at the time. At this time they hired Tom Kellogg for their high end bikes.
Enjoy the bike. I don't remember how it rode, but it has some good pedigree even if many don't recognize it as a good bike. And, of course the condition is outstanding.
