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Old 07-17-07, 08:04 PM
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Opinion on Schwinn LeTour

I have an oppurtunity to buy a Schwinn LeTour in perfect condition for $175 what are you thoughts on the bike?


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Old 07-17-07, 08:54 PM
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Can't go wrong, grab it...
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Old 07-17-07, 09:02 PM
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If it's really in perfect shape, it's probably worth it, but I'd still try to negotiate down a bit. I'm guessing that assessment is the seller's words, not yours?

Exage 300 are probably competent, but entry level components (not garbage, though).

I wouldn't pay that, though, unless the frame tubing is at least 4130 chromoly, or Columbus Tenax...which I think it may be. I'd also want chromoly stays and forks, rather than high tensile.

That being said, I've sold similar bikes (completely overhauled, mind you) for more in the NYC market.
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A good rule of thumb in the Raleigh area CL is index shifting road bikes with aero brakes bring at least $125-150. Really nice may bring more. Over $200 it better be something special or have brifters. Using that rule of thumb, the Schwinn is on the slightly high side, but still within reason. If its your size, it might be worth the extra $$$ just to get a good fit. I'd try to knock it down another $25, then grab it.
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Old 07-17-07, 09:46 PM
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Agree with the others that the price is a little high, but if the bike and helmet fit and the other accessories all work, and it truly is in excellent shape, then I think it will be a good deal.

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Old 07-17-07, 11:10 PM
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Agree with the others that the price is a little high, but if the bike and helmet fit and the other accessories all work, and it truly is in excellent shape, then I think it will be a good deal.
Orig asking $220 on craigs list I think its a bit much even at $175.00, but what the heck, you like it? buy it!
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I am torn between that this giant if i could get it for 150ish that or a newer road bike
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I'd go for the Le Tour, but hey, I'll admit I have an undeniable affinity for Schwinns. Best of luck on your decision.
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Old 07-18-07, 10:02 AM
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If the letour has cromoly tubing what bike would be a better platform to build up.
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Originally Posted by p2592b View Post
If the letour has cromoly tubing what bike would be a better platform to build up.
Yes, that le tour will have a full chromoly frame of some sort (generic 4130, True Temper, Columbus Tenax, etc.). All le tours '83 and later have full chromo frames, and this one appears to be from the late '80's or very early '90's. It was very likely built at the Greenville, Mississippi Schwinn plant. I'd go for the Schwinn-
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I think they are pretty comparable. I'd bet the Giant has full chromoly tubing, too, but don't quote me on that. Go with the bike you like better...but the Schwinn has more cachet, especially on this forum.
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Originally Posted by JunkYardBike View Post
I think they are pretty comparable. I'd bet the Giant has full chromoly tubing, too, but don't quote me on that. Go with the bike you like better...but the Schwinn has more cachet, especially on this forum.
I wouldn't take that bet - I think JYB is correct about the Giant.

Also, it seems to me like a bike with 7-speed Exage and RSX was likely built in Taiwan. Am I misremembering, or didn't Giant actually build Schwinn frames during the era of these bikes? Aren't those the bikes with the "G" serial numbers?
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I wouldn't take that bet - I think JYB is correct about the Giant.

Also, it seems to me like a bike with 7-speed Exage and RSX was likely built in Taiwan. Am I misremembering, or didn't Giant actually build Schwinn frames during the era of these bikes? Aren't those the bikes with the "G" serial numbers?
As far as I know, no le tours were built in Taiwan.

Giant did build a lot of Schwinns in the '80's, but not le tours as far as I know. '82 le tours were made in Japan, and I think that was the last year they were imported.
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Originally Posted by well biked View Post
As far as I know, no le tours were built in Taiwan.

Giant did build a lot of Schwinns in the '80's, but not le tours as far as I know. '82 le tours were made in Japan, and I think that was the last year they were imported.
Thanks for the info. I was thinking these bikes were early-to-mid-90s, contemporaries of the "Series" Paramounts.
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I have a 1974 le tour and just ride it and if you like it it will keep you happy. and i would pay 175 for another one. and I do not know when Schwinn stopped making the le tours, but all the ones i have seen where in the 70's. I payed $250 for mine 50 in work, 60 in tires, 20 in cleaning, rest in bike.

buyZ it!
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We have a Super Le Tour and I am not sure of the year, but it is one of the best bikes in our fleet. It is at least as good as any of our newer road bikes with the exception that the Le Tour has down tube shift levers rather than STI shifters (but that could be changed, of course). Oh, and the original Le Tour rims were straight flange and had to be replaced with alloy rims with flanges for wire-bead tires.

Besides that, the Le Tour is sweet. I rebuilt the whole bike right down to the bearings. Every component is nicely crafted. The bike is lightweight, strong, and reliable. For the money, it can't be beat.

Look to make sure that your Le Tour is made in Japan which means all parts will be made in Japan (except for the saddle, I think. Brakes and levers will still be Dia Compe). The handlebars should be Japanese and made of aluminum.

Not all Le Tours are the same. I have another plain old Le Tour. It is considerably heavier than the Super Le Tour.

The Super Le Tour has aluminum alloy components. The Super Le Tour has 1010 AISI tubing.

The standard Le Tour has what appears to be plain old steel tubing and steel components. The derailures have "Le Tour" stamped on them which is cute, but they are steel and add to the overall weight of the bike.

IMO, the plain Le Tour does not appear to be all that special, but the Super Le Tour is very nice.
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We have a Super Le Tour and I am not sure of the year, but it is one of the best bikes in our fleet. It is at least as good as any of our newer road bikes with the exception that the Le Tour has down tube shift levers rather than STI shifters (but that could be changed, of course). Oh, and the original Le Tour rims were straight flange and had to be replaced with alloy rims with flanges for wire-bead tires.

Besides that, the Le Tour is sweet. I rebuilt the whole bike right down to the bearings. Every component is nicely crafted. The bike is lightweight, strong, and reliable. For the money, it can't be beat.

Look to make sure that your Le Tour is made in Japan which means all parts will be made in Japan (except for the saddle, I think. Brakes and levers will still be Dia Compe). The handlebars should be Japanese and made of aluminum.

Not all Le Tours are the same. I have another plain old Le Tour. It is considerably heavier than the Super Le Tour.

The Super Le Tour has aluminum alloy components. The Super Le Tour has 1010 AISI tubing.

The standard Le Tour has what appears to be plain old steel tubing and steel components. The derailures have "Le Tour" stamped on them which is cute, but they are steel and add to the overall weight of the bike.

IMO, the plain Le Tour does not appear to be all that special, but the Super Le Tour is very nice.
Nah, you're generalizing too much. The le tour line of bikes spanned quite a time frame, there's no way you can say, as a general statement, "super le tours are better than 'plain' le tours". Sure, a Super le tour in a given year will have better components on it than a standard le tour(or in the case of Super le tour 12.2's, a better frame, too), but that really just applies to that given year. I've got an '82 Super le tour, an '83 le tour luxe (just below the Super le tour that year in the pecking order), and an '84 le tour. The '83 le tour luxe is superior in most every way to the '82 Super le tour (with the full chromo frame on the '83 compared to the 1020 frame on the '82 being the biggest thing), and the standard '84 le tour is "better" than both of them (double butted chromo frame and forged dropouts being the main things).

As for the OP making sure it's made in Japan, it's not so much where the bike was made, but what it's made of. The best le tours were made in Mississippi during the '80's and very early '90's, not because they were made in Mississippi but because the bikes had evolved into full chromoly steel framed bikes by then. The chromoly thing was a sign of the times, yes, and that's not to say the earlier bikes aren't great riding bikes, but if you're going to compare le tours you have to consider the particular time frame you're talking about, there was about a twenty year period of lugged steel le tours-
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My 86ish Le Tour is True Temper, and had Shimano "Sante" brakes on it when I got it.(Bare frame) The 700 rims I tried didn't fit, but 27's will. This one is probably newer with biopace, etc. If it truly is in the condition he says, I'd say that's a fair price. I would try to knock it down some though if it was me.,,,,BD
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