Your Favorite Classic Italian Bike?
08-18-07, 09:50 AM
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My favorite is the only Italian bike I own.....but that could change.... 
Hey Marty, that saddle looks pretty good on the Pog.
Hey Marty, that saddle looks pretty good on the Pog.
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No mention of Ciocc yet? I guess it is because I have one but also, back in the '80s as a teenager, there was a certain mystique to it. My friends all had road bikes, mostly Mieles or Peugeuts, because the mountain bike thing hadn't quite caught on yet. I was the first to buy a mountain bike because I had been riding a BMX and couldn't keep up with the Mieles.
It was a pretty good bike but then one of my friends decided to one-up everyone by purchasing a Ciocc. It was nice. Champagne colour and full Campy parts, it flew. None of us had ever heard of this company before and we had no idea of how to pronounce the name, we just knew that it was beautiful and light and very fast. Ever since then, that brand, Ciocc, has had a special place in my memory as being an elite bicycle.
It was a pretty good bike but then one of my friends decided to one-up everyone by purchasing a Ciocc. It was nice. Champagne colour and full Campy parts, it flew. None of us had ever heard of this company before and we had no idea of how to pronounce the name, we just knew that it was beautiful and light and very fast. Ever since then, that brand, Ciocc, has had a special place in my memory as being an elite bicycle.
But it was a sweet ride. I loved watching him race that bike. Good memories indeed.
08-18-07, 10:34 AM
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08-18-07, 02:31 PM
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There are some seriously fine bikes in this thread! Just makes my fever that much worse.
08-18-07, 08:03 PM
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I've had a Rossignoli, and I now have a Masi GC probably by Kirkbride or Roberson, and a Mondonico. I think the Mondonico rides better than the Masi until I get on the Masi. Then I think the Mondo is better when I return to it. I don't think the herd will ever get thinned!
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I've been reading and re-reading this thread but I can't decide on my all time favourite Italian bike (although I usually lean towards Bianchi, no Cinelli, no Bianchi). Just looking at all the wonderful photos I can only narrow my choice down to my favourite bike building country - Italy.
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08-18-07, 08:34 PM
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I've had a Rossignoli, and I now have a Masi GC probably by Kirkbride or Roberson, and a Mondonico. I think the Mondonico rides better than the Masi until I get on the Masi. Then I think the Mondo is better when I return to it. I don't think the herd will ever get thinned!
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08-19-07, 07:21 AM
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Forgot about the Grandaddy of Italian bikes - Gloria.
08-19-07, 07:52 AM
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Probably the answer to "your favorite classic Italian bike" is the last one you rode.
08-19-07, 09:38 AM
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Lynn,
That is what I needed the flite for. Purpose traded!
Speaking of grandaddies of Italian we could discuss Umberto Dei but
this is about favourite for riding, I've never seen a Dei in person, let alone ride one.
Marty
That is what I needed the flite for. Purpose traded!
Speaking of grandaddies of Italian we could discuss Umberto Dei but
this is about favourite for riding, I've never seen a Dei in person, let alone ride one.
Marty
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08-19-07, 01:37 PM
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No...
I wish it was. I bought the frame in 88 from the LBS. It was just the frame and was a couple of years old at the time. My brother worked for the shop at the time and basically put it together for me as cheap as possible. I could kick myself today, but didn't really have a choice back then. $800 back then was like $8k for me today...
It has Shimano 600 parts, would love to restore it with Campy, but wouldn't even know where to begin to find the right parts. Besides I'm a mechanical idiot, I'd have to find the right person locally to help me out. It rides fine, so I'll just learn to be content and not look at too many picture posts here.
I wish it was. I bought the frame in 88 from the LBS. It was just the frame and was a couple of years old at the time. My brother worked for the shop at the time and basically put it together for me as cheap as possible. I could kick myself today, but didn't really have a choice back then. $800 back then was like $8k for me today... It has Shimano 600 parts, would love to restore it with Campy, but wouldn't even know where to begin to find the right parts. Besides I'm a mechanical idiot, I'd have to find the right person locally to help me out. It rides fine, so I'll just learn to be content and not look at too many picture posts here.
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08-19-07, 01:39 PM
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08-19-07, 01:43 PM
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My Basso Lotto. Full campy record w/ delta brakes
https://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...01957124QnRFCE
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08-20-07, 06:46 AM
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iab - I'm thinking about legal action! My jaw hit the ground HARD! The Gloria should have came with a warning before viewing.
A wonderful example of the art of bike building - thankyou.
A wonderful example of the art of bike building - thankyou.
08-20-07, 09:39 AM
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an early 70's cinelli super corsa. like the most beautiful bike ever! with the chromed seat and chain stays and a sloping chromed fork crown. a true work of art! it was far ahead of other manufacturers at the time.
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08-20-07, 07:37 PM
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08-20-07, 07:42 PM
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https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Gloria_main.html
08-20-07, 10:58 PM
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I have nothing but Italian road bikes:
1969 Cinelli Especial coursa Campagnolo Fiamme Red rims Mars Red paint.
1964 Bianchi Track bike Campy Pista group large flange hubs and Fiamme Red rims with tied and soldered spokes. Celeste (battle ship primer shade)
1990 Greg Lemond (pre-TREK) built by Scapin. C-Record group 8spd Autographed by GL himself with a black Sharpie covered with clear chainstay tape. Coors Light team colors.
2005 Mondonico Diamond Extra Lugged Columbus Neuron tubing Moltini orange. WOW! 2005 Record group 17.9 lbs and I am not even a weight wiennie! For a 2 year old bike it is absolutely fantastic. I sold a Ti Carbon bike in preference to getting back on steel. I was finding my self out on the old Cinelli or GL as often as the "moderne" wonder metal bike. I am even using a Pinarello steel fork instead of CF. Will never go back.
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1969 Cinelli Especial coursa Campagnolo Fiamme Red rims Mars Red paint.
1964 Bianchi Track bike Campy Pista group large flange hubs and Fiamme Red rims with tied and soldered spokes. Celeste (battle ship primer shade)
1990 Greg Lemond (pre-TREK) built by Scapin. C-Record group 8spd Autographed by GL himself with a black Sharpie covered with clear chainstay tape. Coors Light team colors.
2005 Mondonico Diamond Extra Lugged Columbus Neuron tubing Moltini orange. WOW! 2005 Record group 17.9 lbs and I am not even a weight wiennie! For a 2 year old bike it is absolutely fantastic. I sold a Ti Carbon bike in preference to getting back on steel. I was finding my self out on the old Cinelli or GL as often as the "moderne" wonder metal bike. I am even using a Pinarello steel fork instead of CF. Will never go back.
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08-20-07, 11:14 PM
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Sell your soul...you have no choice!!!! I purchased a Mondonico Diamond Extra that I had been lusting after for more than a year. I sold my Ti Carbon compact frame and bought the Mondonico. It is as close to my old Cinelli (my bench mark) in riding characteristics, better in some very important ways. I can go on 100 milers and not feel beat up after the ride. I think this is a fantastic bike. I went with a used Pinarello steel fork I had laying around. I have a Mondonico Chrome fork that I am saving. You will not regret getting the FL. See if you can put it away on a lay a way plan of some kind. The modern steels are fantastic. Why anyone would buy a CF bike built in China by some poor guy making $8 per day...now you have to worry about DiEthylene Glycol being mixed in with the resin. Sorry going down hill at over 50mph I feel better about some skilled builder silver soldering the tubes in the lugs or TIG welding the new steels which get stronger with the heating...no contest.
08-21-07, 12:17 AM
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@Jab: that Gloria is a beauty 
if i had the choice, i'd pick maybe a Bianchi Specialissima like this one:
i'm loving the integrated headset, and the heritage.
Of the bikes i own, my Learco Guerra is my favourite.
if i had the choice, i'd pick maybe a Bianchi Specialissima like this one:
i'm loving the integrated headset, and the heritage.
Of the bikes i own, my Learco Guerra is my favourite.
08-21-07, 12:33 AM
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i only have one "Italian" but it was the first bike in my collection and i cant bring myself to part with it ! plus Casati,s are few and far between in my neck of the woods !
08-21-07, 01:10 AM
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thats a very nice frame (Gold Line i suppose?) and it would deserve some love do the poor thing a favour, get it an alloy stem, cut the steerer tube and wrap some nice handlebar tape...
do the poor thing a favour, get it an alloy stem, cut the steerer tube and wrap some nice handlebar tape...
08-21-07, 07:23 AM
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08-21-07, 10:16 AM
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In fact, i dealt with the seller in spring and he offered me this very bike shortly afterwards for a bit more than now on Ebay... its a nice bike, but around 2000€ is a lot of money to spend for a bike you really wouldn't use much. I got the cambio corsa Learco on the other pic for way less... and the Bianchi is restored. If it had been original condtition,i might have bought it nevertheless. Oh, btw i think the auction got closed, so i guess it sold.
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No Rossin Ghibli yet? Man I always wanted one of those, still do! These are some awesome machines being displayed here. I don't know if I could pick just one of mine. Probably this Max Tubed Bianchi Proto.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601514392456/
Or my MS tubed Basso Ascot
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601514867138/
No wait, my DeRosa Super Prestige
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601534760260/
Hmmmmm...Masi's? Ones from italy and the other is a 74 Carlsbad, Ca (blue)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601515686816/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601541955689/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601514392456/
Or my MS tubed Basso Ascot
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601514867138/
No wait, my DeRosa Super Prestige
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601534760260/
Hmmmmm...Masi's? Ones from italy and the other is a 74 Carlsbad, Ca (blue)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601515686816/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1164781...7601541955689/
