campy 9 speed, what is required.
 

well i got some wheels that are campy hubs with campy 9speed cassette.
since my downtube shifter doesn't work well i think i'm gonna make my Miele a 9 speed.

so...can anyone tell me what i need to make it work?

i would guess the hub would be 130mm, after a quick measure though it looks like it might be 126.
a RD that will work...what?
are there downtube shifters that will work or will i have to use something else?
i was running the bike without a front der. but i don't know that will work with 9speed, any idea on that?

it has dura ace 7400 right now...

If you want it to work with indexing, you'll have to get Campagnolo shifters, and derailleurs. The distance between the cogs, and the amount of pull that corresponds to the distance are different between Shimano and Campagnolo. I'm pretty sure Campagnolo make bar cons - which would probably be a lot cheaper than brifters. I don't know if you need special derailleurs or not. The newer Record, Chorus and Veloce all ought to work, but I'm not sure if older derailleurs would.

If you want to use all the cogs on the back, you'll need more than one chain ring - hence a front derailleur. I'm not sure if the componentry is more forgiving there or not. :o

Lots of people in the Road Cycling Forum would certainly know about this.

1. All Campy 8, 9 and 10 sp are 130mm
2. Campy made 2 versions of 9 sp derailleurs and shifters: pre and post 2001. They have different actuation ratios and aren't interchangable. Campy 8 sp and early 9 use the same rear derailleurs. They are getting very rare and expensive. That's the bad news. Good news next
3. You can ugrade early 9 sp brifters to current 9 sp with an Ergo gear change. That allows you to use current 9 sp derailleurs, which are plentiful.
4. Campy 9 sp cassettes are all the same. There are no early versions. That's also good news.

IMO, if you want Campy 9 sp, use any post 2001 rear derailleur and and a set of Mirage brifters. Campy 10 sp rear derailleurs have narrower busings in the cages. An 8 or 9 sp chain is usually too wide to fit. So confine your shopping to derailleurs that actually say 9 sp. Good luck


Tim

My advice would be to not lock yourself into a "system". Keep it non-indexed if that's what you're already used to on your existing bike. Any downtube or barcon shifter would work in that case, and pretty much any derailleur too. It would be a lot cheaper than going to full-indexing with a Campy system, and a lot less problematic in the long run. I have a 9-speed Campy Veloce system, and I can guarantee that if ever anything breaks and needs to be replaced, that bike is going to see non-indexed downtube shifters for the first time. The only problem is that Campy stuff lasts a long time, so I'm stuck with it :-)

The advantages of an indexed system are way overstated if you're a tourer or solo rider and not a racer or you don't have to shift along with club rides.

Personally though, I would never upgrade a whole bike just to match a wheel. I would either get another wheel or rebuild the wheel with something suitable.

The easiest, and by far cheapest, approach is Longfemur's. No reason at all you can't friction shift across 9 cogs.

If you do want Campy Ergo cs1 has good info though you could go with a 9 speed bar end shifter too.
(as also mentioned above)

Your bike/your $


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well, to tell you the truth, i want downtube shifters, friction shifters don't bother me a bit. to tell you the truth, i usually ride my track bike everywhere so i'm used to one gear and never stopping my feet...

so any 9 speed der. and a friction shifter will do it...or bar end shifters.

can anyone tell me what kind of hub this is?
http://flickr.com/photos/73753172@N00/1240771602/

"so any 9 speed der. and a friction shifter will do it...or bar end shifters"

Yes, and you can even use any derailleur that has enough travel, doesn't have to be nine speed. For example, I have run a nine speed cassette with a Campy NR derailleur & SunTour bar end shifters. Also a Shimano 10 speed cassette + Campy 9 spd Veloce derailleur + Sun Tour SL down tube shifters. (edit: Oops, 1st pic of the dark blue bike is with an 8 speed Miche casette, I'm adding another)

Campy doesn't make 9 sp barcons anymore. No problem though, they still make the 9 sp gear for a whopping $10. I'm running a Veloce/Mirage mix with 9 sp barcons. It shifts great.

Tim