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Metricoclock 08-26-07 12:28 PM

ID help needed - Trak - Lugged Frame - Made in Belgium - 56k=bad idea
 
I need some help ID'ing my newest old bike, I have not been able to find anything on the manufacturer or model, i've been stumped

Here is Waffles (first thing that came to my mind when i saw the sticker saying she is from Belgium), I got her not too long ago and have grown very fond of her. But I have yet been able to find any information about her or the company that made her.
The frame has two stickers both saying “Trak” , has another sticker that says “Bonderized in Belgium” and another that says “RC Tubes Construction Garantie” .
She has a lugged frame.
She has Altenberger calipers and brake levers. Simplex derailer and clamp mounted shifter.
and Gnutti skewers and assuming hubs. The front wheel in the pictures does not belong on this bike, i threw one on to take it for a spin that day.

I have a few more pics of here on my webpage for her, http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...e/Library.html

http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_2006.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_2023.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_2022.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1971.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1992.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1988.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1987.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1973.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1974.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1976.jpg

Metricoclock 08-26-07 12:29 PM

http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_2016.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1978.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1981.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_2010.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_2004.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_2001.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1983.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1997.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1998.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1996.jpg

Metricoclock 08-26-07 12:30 PM

http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1995.jpg
http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_1969.jpg

awc380 08-26-07 12:52 PM

Looks like a 1970's Peugeot U08 to me....

T-Mar 08-26-07 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by awc380 (Post 5148006)
Looks like a 1970's Peugeot U08 to me....

I've seen similar lugwork on Superia, another brand from Belgium, but then lug style is not necessarily proprietary to a certain factory. Regardless, it is a typical of the French, boom era, entry level models, with the notable exception of the Altenburger brakes, which were often employed as replacements duing the boom, when shortages prevented outfitting the more popular MAFAC or Weinmann.

redneckwes 08-26-07 07:32 PM

Looks a bit like a Browning too. Neat old 70's euro boom era bomber.

Roll-Monroe-Co 08-26-07 09:07 PM

Let no one accuse this poster of failing to provide large and detailed photos. :p

Metricoclock 08-26-07 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co (Post 5150306)
Let no one accuse this poster of failing to provide large and detailed photos. :p

can't really ask for help if i can't show what i'm asking about now can I :D

Metricoclock 08-26-07 11:06 PM

well i noticed some lugs on a bike in the catch of the day thread.

mine - Trak:

http://web.mac.com/nicholas.tenbrink...s/IMG_2010.jpg


Infinityeye's - 1972 raleigh Grand Prix possibly

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...ye/ral_gp4.jpg


Here is (I think) a 1972 raleigh Grand Prix The bottom bracket has 06 72 (made by phillips of england) and the rear wheel is a flip flop hub. The is also a sticker license from 1972 and a made by gazelle sticker on the bike. Has them wrapped seat stays too! Paint is awsome, those dutch know how to paint!

simplex ders though (he he)

It appears to have the same shifters and derailers. Different brakes.
http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...postcount=1988 <--- for reference on Infinityeye's bike






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joe v 08-27-07 11:13 AM

Beats me...

cvrider 07-03-13 12:36 AM

I had one of these in the 70s. Do you still have it?

T-Mar 07-03-13 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by cvrider (Post 15809238)
I had one of these in the 70s. Do you still have it?

When you're searching out information on your old bicyce, you may want to pay attention to the post dates and the poster's activity history. In this case, the thread has been inactive for almost six years and the originator has not been active on the forums for almost two years, Consequently, you're unlikely to receive a response. Regardless, welcome to the forums.

Bianchigirll 07-03-13 07:22 AM

http://www.disneyeveryday.com/wp-con...an-d54le07.jpg

trak 06-12-19 12:11 PM

I realize your inquiry was way back in 2007 but when searching for "Trak bicycles" your thread turned up. The answer to your query is that the then Trak Ski Company - inventor of the fishscale NoWax cross-country ski (later called Trak Incorporated) entered the bicycle market to give ski shops a counter-seasonal business. The Trak bicycle was made by Remy Cleyes (not sure spelling is correct) factory in Belgium. The business was started in about 1972 but at that time there was insufficient interest among ski shops to do this and thus the business was discontinued after a couple of years. Subsequently, respecting Trak's trademark in the bicycle category, Trek requested the right to use their name in the same category and Trak, knowing that it would be leaving that business, granted their request.

sykerocker 06-12-19 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by trak (Post 20975228)
I realize your inquiry was way back in 2007 but when searching for "Trak bicycles" your thread turned up. The answer to your query is that the then Trak Ski Company - inventor of the fishscale NoWax cross-country ski (later called Trak Incorporated) entered the bicycle market to give ski shops a counter-seasonal business. The Trak bicycle was made by Remy Cleyes (not sure spelling is correct) factory in Belgium. The business was started in about 1972 but at that time there was insufficient interest among ski shops to do this and thus the business was discontinued after a couple of years. Subsequently, respecting Trak's trademark in the bicycle category, Trek requested the right to use their name in the same category and Trak, knowing that it would be leaving that business, granted their request.

That latter point is fascinating. I remember Trak Skiis very well from my cross-country skiing days in Erie, PA back in the Seventies. Of course, being the hard-assed purist using traditional hickory skis and multi-wax systems, I wouldn't be caught dead on something that modern and simple.

The Golden Boy 06-12-19 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by trak (Post 20975228)
Trek requested the right to use their name in the same category and Trak, knowing that it would be leaving that business, granted their request.


Originally Posted by sykerocker (Post 20975319)
That latter point is fascinating. I remember Trak Skiis very well from my cross-country skiing days in Erie, PA back in the Seventies. Of course, being the hard-assed purist using traditional hickory skis and multi-wax systems, I wouldn't be caught dead on something that modern and simple.

That is very interesting... I recall the 2 names they boiled down to were Trek and Kestrel.

non-fixie 06-14-19 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by trak (Post 20975228)
I realize your inquiry was way back in 2007 but when searching for "Trak bicycles" your thread turned up. The answer to your query is that the then Trak Ski Company - inventor of the fishscale NoWax cross-country ski (later called Trak Incorporated) entered the bicycle market to give ski shops a counter-seasonal business. The Trak bicycle was made by Remy Cleyes (not sure spelling is correct) factory in Belgium. The business was started in about 1972 but at that time there was insufficient interest among ski shops to do this and thus the business was discontinued after a couple of years. Subsequently, respecting Trak's trademark in the bicycle category, Trek requested the right to use their name in the same category and Trak, knowing that it would be leaving that business, granted their request.

Thank you! This means that @T-Mar was correct. Superia was Remi Claeys' brand.

T-Mar 06-14-19 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 20979177)
Thank you! This means that @T-Mar was correct. Superia was Remi Claeys' brand.

Vindication, 12 years later! :rolleyes:

bark_eater 06-15-19 03:39 AM

Kind of random, but I recently saw a Trak city/mountain bike at the scrap yard. It didnt seem worth messing with, so back in the pile...


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