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No one wants my old Campagnolo Record hub wheels

Old 09-11-07, 02:32 PM
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No one wants my old Campagnolo Record hub wheels

I recently came into possession of about 8 wheels with old campagnolo record high flange hub laced tubular wheels and have been trying to sell them locally on craigslist. That was about two weeks ago and I've only received one reply in which the guy only offered $20. This was posted in LA and OC so there shouldn't be a problem of lacking cycling aficionados..

I'm just surprised at the lack of responses. I would think that more people would be interested in vintage restoration projects..
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What era are these from?
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Not quite sure, how would I check?

Here's the link to my posting. Comes with pictures:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/411706233.html

I have more wheels laced with different rims and such but i haven't posted those yet..
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Put a real price, but they're missing the skewers, which may be hard to come by. I'd be interested in a pair of 36 hole if you have them.

And that's a freewheel, not a cassette.
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I would think you'd probably get more responses by setting a price. To set pricing, look for comparable completed listings on ebay. People are accustomed to CL as a set-price exchange with negitiation possible, not an ebay-type auction.

Setting a price would be easier for you to manage as well, because you wouldn't need to juggle multiple potential buyers as much, on your way to completing a sale.
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Originally Posted by dbakl View Post
Put a real price, but they're missing the skewers, which may be hard to come by. I'd be interested in a pair of 36 hole if you have them.

And that's a freewheel, not a cassette.
+1 to it all. $100.00 at least I'd think.
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Ah.. I had looked at ebay prices and had also previously posted them on craigslist for a price of $200 but I guess that was way too high. I guess it does make sense to set a price that people can negotiate with.. leaving it at 'best offer' invites poor offers..

oh and most of the wheels do come with their original campy skewers. it just so happens that that pair didn't
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I'm just surprised at the lack of responses. I would think that more people would be interested in vintage restoration projects..
Just sent you a PM. Call me.
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Don't forget, tubulars are evil .

I listed some 36h Fiammes on ebay, $.99 each (one is from the 50s, the other from the 70s), shipping was $10-$15 depending on zip code both in very good condition.

Nothing, nada, zilch, bupkus. Not a single bid, not even a buck. My other stuff sold better than expected but I couldn't believe the rims are worthless.
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there's a guy on boston.craigslist who's been trying to sell a set of campagnolo's laced to mavic's for the last... 6 months... maybe more. he seems to be having the same sort of trouble...
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No one wants your old Campagnolo Record hub wheels for $150

at least one guy wants them for $20, but it seems you turned him away..
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Originally Posted by at7xvigilante View Post
Not quite sure, how would I check?

Here's the link to my posting. Comes with pictures:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/411706233.html

I have more wheels laced with different rims and such but i haven't posted those yet..
I believe Campagnolo NR hubs have date stamps on the axle washers (next to the bearing cones).
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The freewheel in the photo looks like it's in good shape. I'd pay around $30 for that sucker alone, given the chance.

Edited: I counted teeth and don't really want one THAT large
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You might consider unlacing the pictured wheels and listing the hubs/skewers only on eBay. After all, they are the highly sought after Schwinn Paramount specific Nuovo Record hubs...C'mon, gang! I'm disappointed! Nobody else noticed the extra holes drilled in between the spoke holes? (From when, as legend has it, Campy sent the Paramount factory undrilled hubs and the Schwinn employees over-drilled the spokes in an attempt to counter sink.)
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Originally Posted by Devotion View Post
You might consider unlacing the pictured wheels and listing the hubs/skewers only on eBay. After all, they are the highly sought after Schwinn Paramount specific Nuovo Record hubs...C'mon, gang! I'm disappointed! Nobody else noticed the extra holes drilled in between the spoke holes? (From when, as legend has it, Campy sent the Paramount factory undrilled hubs and the Schwinn employees over-drilled the spokes in an attempt to counter sink.)
Hmm, your right. Cut em out polish em up and throw on ebay.

Story I heard though was they were using up hubs that were drilled for tandems, spoke holes too big for single bike spokes so they drilled another, smaller set of holes.
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Cut em out polish em up and throw on ebay.
+1!

Just received a pair of hi-flange that I won on the bay for $100. And that's been the low end for a pair of hubs like that. You have 4 pairs?!? Ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching!!!$$

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Originally Posted by cranky old road View Post
The freewheel in the photo looks like it's in good shape. I'd pay around $30 for that sucker alone, given the chance.

Edited: I counted teeth and don't really want one THAT large

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The market for high-flange Campagnolo hubs is far larger than that for tubular rims. Unless the spokes are stainless steel, just cut them.
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Originally Posted by Devotion View Post
You might consider unlacing the pictured wheels and listing the hubs/skewers only on eBay. After all, they are the highly sought after Schwinn Paramount specific Nuovo Record hubs...C'mon, gang! I'm disappointed! Nobody else noticed the extra holes drilled in between the spoke holes? (From when, as legend has it, Campy sent the Paramount factory undrilled hubs and the Schwinn employees over-drilled the spokes in an attempt to counter sink.)
That's also the weird 14-16-18-23-26 freewheel used on many Paramounts with 52-49 chainrings. Replace it with an ultra-6 14-16-18-20-23-26 to restore the crucial missing ratio, and you have a great set of gears.

I read elsewhere about the strange spoke drilling; was it perhaps used to accommodate various spoke counts?
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That's also the weird 14-16-18-23-26 freewheel used on many Paramounts with 52-49 chainrings. Replace it with an ultra-6 14-16-18-20-23-26 to restore the crucial missing ratio, and you have a great set of gears.

I read elsewhere about the strange spoke drilling; was it perhaps used to accommodate various spoke counts?
Sure look Schwinn error to me... Error, old shop rat tale was that Schwinn goofed up countersinking a big batch of hubs, so redrilled them to make them usable. Some I have seen fit that description, some to me look like they were drilled for heavier spokes, say tandem type usage, but but still got redrilled to prevent scrap. Take your pick, maybe someone knows the real story and has no axe to grind. The red label rims are also sought after, so unlace them if you must, do not cut them out, and remove the freewheel first.

I always laugh today, wheels are now complete without skewers and bikes are sold without pedals...
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Originally Posted by iab View Post
Don't forget, tubulars are evil .

I listed some 36h Fiammes on ebay, $.99 each (one is from the 50s, the other from the 70s), shipping was $10-$15 depending on zip code both in very good condition.

Nothing, nada, zilch, bupkus. Not a single bid, not even a buck. My other stuff sold better than expected but I couldn't believe the rims are worthless.
Because I'm tapped for a while. Otherwise, there would have been a bid.
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Originally Posted by iab View Post
Don't forget, tubulars are evil .

I listed some 36h Fiammes on ebay, $.99 each (one is from the 50s, the other from the 70s), shipping was $10-$15 depending on zip code both in very good condition.

Nothing, nada, zilch, bupkus. Not a single bid, not even a buck. My other stuff sold better than expected but I couldn't believe the rims are worthless.
On ebay timing is everything, for Fiamme's logo is everything, that and sound condition. Folk are a bit shy regarding rims right now, the cost to actually send them has gone up, they take up too much room.
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Wow. You guys have been extremely helpful! I was getting worried about selling the wheels because they were all tubulars and the market for that is small but removing the hub and selling that by itself? I should have thought of that earlier. I'll check out the axle washers for the date later today.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
...so unlace them if you must, do not cut them out, and remove the freewheel first...
Seriously sound advice. It's my understanding that a wheel should be slowly detensioned (by loosening spokes rather than cutting them) to avoid stressing/weakening/breaking the hub flanges. These particular hubs, covered in holes, could be that much more prone to breakage, no?
Also, the story that I have heard with regards to the "Schwinn error" (first set of holes was too big) was that the spoke heads were too small and the spokes would either not sit properly or would go right through the holes. If these holes were intentionally drilled for heavier guage tandem spokes, would this problem really be avoided? Are the spoke heads much larger on spokes intended for tandems? I have never built a tandem wheelset, though spoke head diameter doesn't seem to fluctuate much, to my untrained eye.

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Because I'm tapped for a while. Otherwise, there would have been a bid.

Both can be had for shipping, $10-15 depnding on zip code to you or anyone else who can use them. They are collecting dust at my place. As everyone here pointed out, I bought the wheels for the hubs, the rims were a "bonus".
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