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Old 09-12-07, 02:47 PM
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Austro Daimler help

Hello,
I recently acquired an Austro Daimler frame, the paint is a little beat up and the decals on the top tube are missing so I cannot figure out which model I have here. The paint is red, the hubs are Normandy I believe, the brakes are Wienmann and the cables are attached via little clamps. Any help in determining the model would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-12-07, 03:35 PM
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The first rule of the C&V Forum: pictures!!!

I have an '82 A-D Starleicht which I thought had no model ID on the frame ... but it turns out (as I learned from a tipster here) that they used magic disappearing top tube decals which can be read if you hold them up to the light at an angle. I kid you not ... try it.

If it's still a mystery, other helpful identifiers are stickers ID'ing the tubing, the group with which it was originally equipped, and whether the dropouts are forged or stamped.

Based on the brake cable clamps and the Normandy/Weinmann stuff, I'm guessing late '70's, and I'm also guessing mid-range ... the high end bikes had Campy, or later, Dura-Ace.

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Old 09-12-07, 03:42 PM
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One More thing: there a bunch of catalog scans here:

http://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/Cat...AustroDaimler/

They take a while to load, but the resolution is great.
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Old 09-13-07, 04:04 PM
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Hi,
Here are some photos, sorry they're a little blurry, too much coffee and cold medicine I guess.
There isn't enough paint on the top tube to see any magic, I have no idea what happened to this frame in it's past life but it looks like it was rough. The seat has this stamped, fake quilted stitch look to it. There isn't the "A-D" stamped into the frame below the seat either like I've seen on a lot of AD's.
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The first rule of the C&V Forum: pictures!!!

I have an '82 A-D Starleicht which I thought had no model ID on the frame ... but it turns out (as I learned from a tipster here) that they used magic disappearing top tube decals which can be read if you hold them up to the light at an angle. I kid you not ... try it.

If it's still a mystery, other helpful identifiers are stickers ID'ing the tubing, the group with which it was originally equipped, and whether the dropouts are forged or stamped.

Based on the brake cable clamps and the Normandy/Weinmann stuff, I'm guessing late '70's, and I'm also guessing mid-range ... the high end bikes had Campy, or later, Dura-Ace.

Tell us more.
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Old 09-13-07, 05:21 PM
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Those stamped dropouts tell me that yours is one of the entry-level bikes, but other than that I'm at a loss.
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Old 09-13-07, 08:18 PM
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I agree with MajorA that it is probably a low-end frame, but that crank suggests that it might be a three-tubes-reynolds bike, or maybe just the top of the low end.

I used to sell ADs (MajorA may remember Willamette Valley Cycle Works, if he has been in Eugene for a while), and these pictures are ringing a bell, but I can't quite bring the memories into focus...
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Old 10-19-07, 03:18 PM
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Its an Austro Daimler SL witch is an entry level bike with Puch 2500 Steel tubes build in 1978
Regards from Austria (home of Puch/Austro Daimler)
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Old 10-19-07, 04:03 PM
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It's a very inexpensive model. Look at the seem on that stamped BB!! Probably it'll make a fairly OK rider though.
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Old 10-19-07, 08:27 PM
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The 3-bolt crank spider is another indicator of lesser quality; the TA Pro admittedly had a 3-bolt spider, but every other manufacturer used 5 bolts on top-of-the-line cranks and 3 bolts on lesser offerings.
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