Walter

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=7298

My first "real" (as in bought from a shop) was a Moto bought back in 78. Unfortunately, all I could afford was a Nomade but, with the addition of an alloy wheelset, barcons and a early SunTour Superbe rear der. it was a nice bike that took me to the beach and allowed me to participate in the unofficial "races" (100-150yd sprints really) that used to happen there all the time. Actually won a few.

Anyways, this was the bike I wanted . This particular one is a couple of year older but the '78 wasn't much different. I used to just know back then I would've won alot more of those sprints on this baby. I still think I would have.

Current price ain't bad, but I'm not jumping in. Whoever gets it has a nice bike.

don d.

I've been watchin this one too. These moto's were very nicely done.
Very attractive workmanship to. This one is in pretty good condition. I'll bet the reserve is $400.

Walter

Hey Don:

While talking about old bikes, have you seen this one?

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=7298

EBay is hopping right now. Btw, am I correct that a N. Record rear der. would not be OEM on that bike?

don d.

The Olmo is a beaut-check out all those badges and labels. The front derailleur is the right time period, but you're right; the rear der. is definitely an aftermarket job. It should probably have a steel body Record on there. I believe the Nouvo Record didn't come out till the late 60's. That is a well preserved bike. The same time period as John E's capo.

lotek 

Record rear derailleur was introduced in 1963
Nuvo Record was introduced in 1967.
The Olmo most probably had a Gran Sport derailleur.

Marty

bikerchas55

My first real bike was also a Motobecane, Gran Touring with Suntour stuff. I rode the hell out of it from 76-90 in Minneapolis and on the grid in Manhattan. Laps round and round Central Park on Sundays wearing jeans and blowing past the Lycra crowd (now I'm a steadfast member of the Lycra crowd!). The only thing I ever replaced on that bike was a set of rims which wrapped themselves around a jaywalker. Now I ride a classic 1989 OLMO Corse Squadra, picture can be seen on the "what are you riding?" thread

Walter

You may be right. Auction finished at $306 and under reserve. I've seen a few Records sell on eBay and the $300 range seems to be about market value.

Motos have alot of name recognition, Bikerchas and myself are hardly the first to have tales of a Moto as their first "real" bike. Motos were as common as Raleighs in my area of S. Fla in the later 1970s. Probably b/c of that they all seem to sell. However, they don't seem to attract money from serious collectors. A Raleigh International would be essentially the same bike and would've gotten the $400 in bids.

If you're looking to buy an icon from your youth a vintage Moto might just be a bargain.

Poguemahone

"If you're looking to buy an icon from your youth a vintage Moto might just be a bargain."

And then you can have the fun/frustration of dealing with the French and Swiss threaded parts (spoken from experience, I have a moto and 4 Peugeots from the 70's).

don d.

So are you saying we can get parts from you? Great!

mikescooling

I just got one at a moving sale I asked if he had any working bikes that were not used any more The guys name was Dean, Dean said I have old training bike that I used to train and race in triathlon’s.
He said the bike needed tubes but nothing else. He said is 25$ ok!!! I think by the time he finished saying ok he had 25 bucks in his hand.
I only had to change one tube and I took the bike for a 20ml spin this morning. All my other bikes are MTB’s so this is a big difference and I know I like it. The bike works GREAT!

Some questions about my” Motobecane Grand Record” 12 speed

It also has a few stickers that say douuble butted vitus 172. I did check the spelling on douuble it must be French?

I know, I’m double butted, but what dos that mean for a bike?
Can any one tell me any info on my bike?

Thanks Mike

don d.

ok, if you have a Motobecane grand record that you got for 25 bucks you are required to post a picture of it to prove it. If it's in Walter's size frame, you are required to provide him with kleenex to wipe away the tears as he sobs about why he never gets deals like this. Life is not fair, walter.

I think I'll let Walter tell you more. He should read this soon. Or you can go to the link at the top of this post and look at the grand record on e-bay.

mikescooling

But I took a chance The bike had two flats and all I could do is spin the tires as I held it up. The bike looked like someone cared for it years ago, but it could have been junk.
How do I find out how old this bike is? I think for some reason 78-80’s
I do have a digital camera but I don’t know how to post.
Mike

Poguemahone

Mike, it's my understanding the Grand Record was made from Reynolds 531 double butted tubing, although later models might have used the vitus tubing. Don't really know that much about motos in general. Nothing wrong with the Vitus tubing; I have a nice Peugeot PFN10E that uses it. BTW, double butting the tubing decreases the frame weight by thickening tubing at the end and thining it in the middle. Any lugged, double butted steel frame is probably worth keeping. You might be able to date the bike via serial numbers; I'm not sure how to read moto ones, though.

And no, Don d, you can't get any parts from me. I'm hoarding them for myself.

don d.

You have scored! A Motobecane Grand Record is an upper end racing, all-purpose road bike. It may have a mix of components but probably has some very nice parts and a very nice frame. The post to ebay that walter put up at the top of this thread will take you to a picture and a description of one. Does your bike look like that?

don d.

Very Wise!

mikescooling

Is there any chance I could email a picture? It’s killing me to not showing this thing off.
I put another 10ml on to day and I took pictures, What a sweet bike!

don d.

I am braindead about how to post these things, but I'm sure it is possible. Just PM a moderator and ask them to walk you through the process.

mikescooling

I kinda know, I need to post the pictures on a web-sight then I can link or move the picture as an attachment. I think? Or maybe I could attach it to a email.

Someone help me I'V FALLEN AND CAN'T GET UP

Walter

Rub it in, why don't you Don!

Ok, like Pogue, the Grand Records that I'm familiar with (mid to late 70s models) were full 531. The decal should/could be in French but is immediately recognizable. Equipment should be Campy N. Record changers but there's some variation with the rest. Might be Stronglight crankset, might be Campy. I've seen GRs with Universal sidepulls and also with Campy sidepulls. The different kit indicates, I'm sure, different years but I don't know the year to year changes. Again this is my memories of GRs from about 74 thru 78-79.

The Vitus frame and the 12 speed (assuming original freewheel) makes me think you've got a bike from somewhere in the early 80s. From the collector's view the earlier Reynolds framed bikes are the more desireable. That in no way diminishes your bike as the Vitus db tubing is good stuff. During the timeperiod I've been talking about Moto used that on their Jubiles which are very fine bikes in their own stead. In fact in 1978 they were in a metalflake gold with blue decals and were the best looking bikes Moto sold that year. Very nice bike and a great price. Congratulations.

(no life isn't fair)

Btw if you're picture is already on your harddrive posting is easy. Don't use the quick reply and it'll give you directions for loading a pic from your hard drive to a post, even I managed to do it.

Walter

Let me be a little clearer on the picture. Click "Post Reply" at the top of the screen rather than "Quick Reply" at the bottom.

Type whatever text and then just above the "submit reply" tab is a tab for "attachments." Click "browse" and you can go into your hard drive and get the jpeg file of your pictures. Follow the onscreen directions and you're done.

don d.

I'm glad you're giving him directions on this Walter. Maybe now I can post a pic.

By the way, I really couldn't resist the jabs.

Walter

Speaking about unfairness and life....

Devil Dog is now the owner of that very clean Vent Noir he started a thread about AND the Moto GR we've been talking about.

Congrats are in order.....

mikescooling

A drum roll pleas.

don d.

What are we drum rolling?

don d.

You mean the Moto gr on the e-bay? I thought the reserve wasn't met on that?

Walter-when I hit browse to scan my hard drive what do I do next? Do I have to type in my url address or what? From first letter to last, what to I need to type in to get a pic off my harddrive into a thread reply?. Thx.