Finally got a call from the guy this morning after more than a week without news and within one hour I had the bike in my possession. It is in ok condition, not nearly as nice as the other one but still good.The model is gran premio. The paint on the fork is badly flaking but the chrome is good so I will have the fork repainted. Dropouts are in fact campagnolo. The bike is equipped with nuovo record components but something bugs me. The rear derailleur is stamped pat 72 but the front hub lock nut is stamped CAM 66, seat tube is stamped 66.It has universal 61 brakes and the hoods are original !!! I also belive the tires are original (pirelli gran premio) but the front tire is completely blown (5 inches cut on the side). The wheels have campagnolo hubs badged legnano with fiamme rims that need truing. The saddle is a cinelli unicanitor leather salddle with stiching in front.the seat post is a cheap chrome seatpost that will need to me replaced, i really dont believe it belongs to the bike. the front derailleur doesnt have the integrated cable stop like the other.Legnano magistroni cranks. I will post pictures soon but in the meantime any toughs about the age ? will having the fork restored diminish the bikes value? a price is not that important because it will go for sale no mather what but It could be interesting, thanks a lot!

66 from the hubs sounds about right. Rear derailler would've been a Gran Sport, seat originally probably leather. Chrome seatpost may be correct for a Gran Premio. In the 50s/60s the Roma Olympiade and the Gran Premio frames were very similar, except the Gran Premio probably used lesser tubing and the Roma Olympiade had better parts. By the mid 70s the Gran Premio was a junky, low-end bike.

Thanks dbakl , It really looks like the same bike as the linked picture.The number on the seat tube is 36 not 66 like I tough first. Here are pictures of the bike. I am wondering if its worth having the fork repainted and finding the proper rear derailleur.

Another nice looking Legnano. I agree with dbakl on the age estimate. I wouldn't put a lot of $$ into painting or parts as it may not be possible to recover your investment. To me the lack of rust and integrity of the frame is more important than the correct RD. I owned a 1962 Gran Premio and it had a steel seatpost. Can't recall the make of saddle. According to the Campagnolo timeline the FD cable stop went away in 1967. PM me if you want to know what Gran Premios have sold for in the last two years.

And, using your pics here's one way to tell a Roma Olympiade from a Gran Premio. See how the seat stays are better resolved at the seat lug on the Roma, and a little cruder and bullet-like on the Premio. If you're just going to sell it, I wouldn't worry about the fork or the derailler.

gran sport rear derailleurs of the right vintage (last version) are quite easy to find and often available quite cheap...
the nuovo record rear derailleur was probably a common period upgrade; it is often considered to shift better
it certainly would be lighter

Good observation, from a distance, they almost appear to be exactly the same. When looking closer there are some diffrences in the quality of the lugs and the welds. The lug on the Roma are cut cleaner and the edges are smoother. The edges of the lugs are more crude on the Premio and are sharper. Same thing for the dropouts as for the seat lugs. I will try to get the correct rear derailleur if I can find it for cheap, if not It will go for sale as is ( of course cleaned, polished, with new cables, wheels trued, white handlebar tape and a good front tire)

Another Legnano Roma
 

I just picked up an other Roma today, thought it is not in as good condition as the first one , it appears to have most of it's original parts. It even has the Campagnolo Brooks and the required narrow clamp seat post. I am almost thinking of transferring the parts from my other bike to this frame (modern 10 speed campy). Would modern brifters work with Universal 61 brakes? May look a bit ridiculous though ...

Very nice Legnano. Why do I have this feeling of deja vu? This thread obviously has all of the answers re your latest find. However, there is one difference. You never talked about modifying the other Legnanos except in a positive manner. Why would you even think of screwing up this fine looking specimen by putting updated components on it? Don't do it. :(

Very nice. If the seat has Campagnolo stamped on top its worth some bucks...

Yes it does ;)

Very prophetic, Picchio S. I am now the owner of both Legnanos. The 1963 Roma will be the donor bike to complete the 1965 Roma purchased last September. My latest purchase should arrive in two weeks. :D

Try finding anything about THIS LEGNANO! Sure rides sweet though!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/...7342665ab4.jpg

That is cool! The sportshift looks a little out of place though, as does the 'gel' seat.