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Old 04-17-19, 12:59 AM
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Great looking Bianchi! One of these days, I will build up a modern set of Shamals, ie the H+Son SL42s in high polish finish. Forget the 615g/rim weight, it's gonna look awesome!
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Old 04-17-19, 06:21 PM
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Old 04-21-19, 08:31 AM
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1991 Schwinn 354

Love the paint on this, and it climbs so well! Really enjoying the new R7000 Groupset, it's fantastic!











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Beautiful Schwinn @ski4bob ! R7000 looks right at home. The red splatter on the blue paint is a really nice '90s touch, and the carbon fork looks natural.

I took a look at the Schwinn catalog scans, and it appears this is a 1991 354, and I only mention that as it is the one model with a seat post collar/clamp, and it's the "entry level" aluminum offering--the "higher level" models still use the quill seat post. I think that I would very much prefer the 354 for this reason. The other two models only seem a little lighter due to components. All that to say, I think you got the best of the bunch. The seat post diameter is still 27.2mm, so it's not like Schwinn skimped or downgraded that or anything else on the 354 vs the other models. 1991 looked like the last year of these aluminum offerings as well--a shame as they got it right, just before everything went poof.

My big question is, what 1" threadless fork did you find??? It looks very modern and very sleek, perfectly matching the R7000 and the seat post, stem and bars!

EDIT: I think I found it! It's a Hylix full carbon (330g or so, which is crazy light) 1" threadless. Great price, great look, and it chops a lot of weight off the front while likely aiding the ride. And for us tall 25"+ frame guys, the steerer is 300mm, so a fork upgrade is truly possible. How much does your 354 weigh now? I would have to think less than 20 lb!

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Truly a great "hot rod" job on that Schwinn Aluminum.
The guys at GCN should use that as an example of the kind of transformation that can be done, with the right vision and patience and judgement.

This page alone shows how diverse the "upgrade" market is. The elegance of the mixte, the tradition of the Bianchi, and the badass of the Aluminum, all without axing the original idea. If ever there was a "saving" bike movement, it's this.
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That 354 is really nice.

I have yet to see one other than in pictures, but being a Schwinn fan for nostalgic reasons I keep looking for an early Schwinn aluminum road bike.

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Old 04-21-19, 03:19 PM
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Some absolutely gorgeous steeds on this thead, really inspiring builds. Hereís my Olmo I havenít long had it so have borrowed the wheels off my commuter bike to get it running, new campag hoops should arrive next week. Also as a bonus here is my Gitane winter commuter, pedals have changed since this photo to clipless, itís still on downtube shifters though so doesnít strictly belong here..
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Old 04-21-19, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel View Post
Beautiful Schwinn @ski4bob ! R7000 looks right at home. The red splatter on the blue paint is a really nice '90s touch, and the carbon fork looks natural.

I took a look at the Schwinn catalog scans, and it appears this is a 1991 354, and I only mention that as it is the one model with a seat post collar/clamp, and it's the "entry level" aluminum offering--the "higher level" models still use the quill seat post. I think that I would very much prefer the 354 for this reason. The other two models only seem a little lighter due to components. All that to say, I think you got the best of the bunch. The seat post diameter is still 27.2mm, so it's not like Schwinn skimped or downgraded that or anything else on the 354 vs the other models. 1991 looked like the last year of these aluminum offerings as well--a shame as they got it right, just before everything went poof.

My big question is, what 1" threadless fork did you find??? It looks very modern and very sleek, perfectly matching the R7000 and the seat post, stem and bars!

EDIT: I think I found it! It's a Hylix full carbon (330g or so, which is crazy light) 1" threadless. Great price, great look, and it chops a lot of weight off the front while likely aiding the ride. And for us tall 25"+ frame guys, the steerer is 300mm, so a fork upgrade is truly possible. How much does your 354 weigh now? I would have to think less than 20 lb!
Yes, my bad on the year, but yes, of the aluminums they made before bankruptcy, this was the one I always liked because of the colorway, and the seat collar. Yes, it's a Hylix, I hesitated for a long while before buying the fork. I talked to the seller via email, he said that he's sold over 500 of these with no returns and it meets the euro standards. Now of course any guy selling these might say that, but there aren't many bad things that are said about the Hylix products. Of course any fork may have an issue with a curb or wall strike but, I've already hit a couple of pot holes and every thing felt solid. I will keep an eye on it, although I'm not riding this bike on anything but smooth pavement.
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Old 04-21-19, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 88Tempo View Post
That 354 is really nice.

I have yet to see one other than in pictures, but being a Schwinn fan for nostalgic reasons I keep looking for an early Schwinn aluminum road bike.
I am with you on the nostalgia for Schwinn, I had seen one of these in the showroom back then but couldn't pull the trigger on it. Always loved the paint job, the internally routed rear brake housing and the lack of the silly quill seat post. The only other one that really caught my eye was the original aluminum Ontare, again because of awesome paint job. From what I know on the 354 it's the same made in America aluminum tubes as the other higher models, but assembled in, here's where it's murky, Asia? somewhere? For some reason, in my opinion, they made the nicer frame for the "entry" bike.
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Old 04-21-19, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by benjsy View Post


Some absolutely gorgeous steeds on this thead, really inspiring builds. Hereís my Olmo I havenít long had it so have borrowed the wheels off my commuter bike to get it running, new campag hoops should arrive next week. Also as a bonus here is my Gitane winter commuter, pedals have changed since this photo to clipless, itís still on downtube shifters though so doesnít strictly belong here..
Both are very nice rides! The Olmo is very nicely done, looks like it should have come that way from the factory.
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Old 04-21-19, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
Truly a great "hot rod" job on that Schwinn Aluminum.
The guys at GCN should use that as an example of the kind of transformation that can be done, with the right vision and patience and judgement.

This page alone shows how diverse the "upgrade" market is. The elegance of the mixte, the tradition of the Bianchi, and the badass of the Aluminum, all without axing the original idea. If ever there was a "saving" bike movement, it's this.
Thanks!
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Old 04-21-19, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ski4bob View Post
I am with you on the nostalgia for Schwinn, I had seen one of these in the showroom back then but couldn't pull the trigger on it. Always loved the paint job, the internally routed rear brake housing and the lack of the silly quill seat post. The only other one that really caught my eye was the original aluminum Ontare, again because of awesome paint job. From what I know on the 354 it's the same made in America aluminum tubes as the other higher models, but assembled in, here's where it's murky, Asia? somewhere? For some reason, in my opinion, they made the nicer frame for the "entry" bike.
Mines dates back to when I was a youngster and got a chrome Mag Scrambler for Christmas. I put a lot of miles on that bike and then later a yellow LeTour. I didn't ride a bike at all from 86-2010ish.

I saw an Ontare in the Denver Craigslist a while back and had no idea what it was and it got snatched up pretty quick.
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Old 04-22-19, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
Truly a great "hot rod" job on that Schwinn Aluminum.
The guys at GCN should use that as an example of the kind of transformation that can be done, with the right vision and patience and judgement.

This page alone shows how diverse the "upgrade" market is. The elegance of the mixte, the tradition of the Bianchi, and the badass of the Aluminum, all without axing the original idea. If ever there was a "saving" bike movement, it's this.
I think almost any bike here is better done than the GCN bike. I quite enjoyed the GCN videos, but also had in th eback of my mind that we do it better.

Agree on how the diverse nature of retro-mod bikes are is why this is my favorite thread on the forums. All those bikes are just plain cool!
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Old 04-22-19, 10:12 AM
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I think almost any bike here is better done than the GCN bike. I quite enjoyed the GCN videos, but also had in the back of my mind that we do it better.
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Old 05-03-19, 06:33 PM
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My '85 fuso with an updated ultegra 2x11 drivetrain. What a joy to ride.
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Nice looking Fuso! Is it a repaint? I'm watching my local CL hoping to find one at a reasonable price.

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My '85 fuso with an updated ultegra 2x11 drivetrain. What a joy to ride.
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Here is my 1987 Schwinn Super Sport. Started with just a frame and fork, and the fork got ruined by a local bike shop (long story). So the only vintage parts are the frame, head badge, and some bolts. Otherwise itís a new bike.



Love This Bike!

Im in process of restoring a 1987 Super Sport as well. It originally came with the "Miami Vice" Lavender (?) And white.

I'm sanding the whole thing down to repaint. After seeing your bike, Im not sure I want to keep the original color.

A couple questions for you -

1. What fork is that and where did you get it from?

2. What headset did you use?

3. What paint did you use Or is that original paint/decals (It doesnt look like the original paint)?

4. Where did you get the decals?

Thanks in advance. Fantastic looking buke.

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As usual, I check in and see nothing but beautiful bikes! Great jobs, everyone.
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@ski4bob love that color! My daughter just picked up a 98 Schwinn Passage in a very similar blue. Your bike looks awesome...
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I say, that came together rather well. Quite pleasing to the eye.
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Love This Bike!

Im in process of restoring a 1987 Super Sport as well. It originally came with the "Miami Vice" Lavender (?) And white.

I'm sanding the whole thing down to repaint. After seeing your bike, Im not sure I want to keep the original color.

A couple questions for you -

1. What fork is that and where did you get it from?

2. What headset did you use?

3. What paint did you use Or is that original paint/decals (It doesnt look like the original paint)?

4. Where did you get the decals?

Thanks in advance. Fantastic looking buke.

-Sean
Thank you! I really like riding it, though I have changed out the handlebar and seat since these photos were taken.

The fork is a Nashbar carbon fork with a 1-inch threadless aluminum steerer. I am uncertain if they are still available with the bankruptcy of Nashbar/Peformance Bike, but it was only like $70.

The headset is an Origin 8 Pro threadless 1" headset. It was not JIS, but the 30.2 mm cups pressed in to the 30.0 mm head tube without issue.

The finish is powdercoat (RAL 3003 Ruby Red, I believe). A place in Chicago media-blasted and powder-coated the frame for about $100. I don't have a huge number of miles on this bike yet, but the finish is holding up very well so far.

The decals are from Velocals. The "Schwinn" decals were easy to apply, but the "Super Sport" decals were individually cut out letters connected by the underline. Very tricky, and I didn't get it perfectly straight--even using a ruler and marking the location. I'm sure it would be a lot easier with a shorter model name like "Tempo" or "Circuit". Ha.

I have another Tenax Schwinn that I rode for a bit before deciding I liked the frame and fit enough to invest in this build, and so far I just love riding this bike! Feel free to reach out with any other questions. I can also respond to PM's.

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HarborBands that is a really nice Super Sport. I had a chance to buy one for $75, but it would of required a 4 hour round trip so I let it go and I still kick myself for passing on it.
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HarborBands that is a really nice Super Sport. I had a chance to buy one for $75, but it would of required a 4 hour round trip so I let it go and I still kick myself for passing on it.
Thank you! They are definitely available out there for little $$$. Mine had already been stripped of the 600 Tricolor components, so I just reinvented the thing. Itís not a super high end steel frame, but I honestly canít tell the difference. And itís a lot nicer than a modern Surly or Soma, in my opinion.
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To many of us biking and bikes we own are not just a passing fad, we hold affinity for our bikes and as we grow older or geography change we have to make certain changes to the bikes to keep them on the road. 20 years ago I was able to push those tall gears in the valley for hours and keep up. Now I make changes to make it more comfortable and lower gears more suitable for bay area riding.
I rather continually make necessary changes to keep riding my old De Rosa than to give it up and buy a modern bike. What could have been more charitable?
I had to modify bikes when I was 30 years and more younger. Legs with spasticity and physical challenges, in East Tennessee hill country demand granny gears and very wide range derailleurs to adapt, and this keeps Cerebral Palsied legs moving, spirited, and fit. As long as adaptations and updates are done tastefully, reversible, and look proper, carry on, and enjoy riding and staying fit, and scenery moving past you. What matters most, is did you ride, did you enjoy the ride, and do you want to enjoy it for life. Good bikes we have affinity and passion for. They engage us, inspire us, and move us through life.
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So many nice rides...

Havenít posted in awhile since I had little new stuff. One new bit of info I discovered for those of you that like to mix and match, or have newer Campy compatible wheels hanging in the shop... SRAM 10 brifters can be mated with a Shimano 7000-8000 series rear derailleur and flawlessly shift across a Campy 10 cassette with 11s chain.

Helped me clean out the parts box box on a Ritchey Breakaway build I am working on. Just FYI and for your gearing spreadsheets.
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