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Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos

Old 10-02-22, 07:55 AM
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Just built this up today, Merckx MX Leader with 20 speed Campag and 28c tyres.
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Old 10-03-22, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cat0020 View Post
Picked up this Tuscany from FB marketplace few weeks ago.. $850.
Yellow tires really gave away how long it's been sitting.
I'm no Litespeed historian at all, but that looks a lot like an Ultimate. It could just be a later edition of that model, but I'm used to seeing Tuscany frames with round tubes.

Used Ti frames are a very very good deal imo. Nice score.
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Old 10-03-22, 07:57 AM
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My trusty road bike since 2004, over 50k miles pedaled on this 2001 Litespeed Ultimate frame.



My retro TT bike since the 90's, never put barend shifters on it, just STI levers, it's a great road bike, too:
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Old 10-03-22, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by velomateo View Post
I'm no Litespeed historian at all, but that looks a lot like an Ultimate. It could just be a later edition of that model, but I'm used to seeing Tuscany frames with round tubes.

Used Ti frames are a very very good deal imo. Nice score.
Yeah, it's a 2003 or 2004 model Tuscany.
Ultimate frames have rear wheel cutout on the seattube for shorter chainstays.
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Old 10-03-22, 09:23 AM
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Staying on the Litespeed theme, as a 1996 that originally came with 8 speed Record Ergos, this doesn't fit in C&V, but I can't be bothered to go to the early brifters forum to post this (Litespeed-built) 1996 Eddy Merckx Titanium EX that I just built up.
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Old 10-03-22, 10:22 AM
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Looks like a very large frame.
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I can't remember. It's either a 64x62 or 62x62. Looking forward to the room. Since it wasn't quite ready (and I didn't want to take my cycling shoes), The kids and I went to the park today, and then went on a little ride on the attached MUP with them (only 4-5 miles) on a 55 cm LeMond (so probably 57 cm by most other people's measures) that was easily available in the garage and it was so cramped. I should have just packed the shoes and grabbed the Merckx or my Colnago that's currently on the trainer (right now they share a wheelset as the others all need work), but I felt it would be silly to wear cycling shoes for a 4 mile ride at 6-8 mph with many stops.
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Old 10-03-22, 05:04 PM
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I built up this new to me Fuso frame a couple of weeks ago. It rides so nice! The 7700 with STI seem a bit out of place but it works great. At some point in the distance future maybe I will treat myself to some 7400 with down tube shifters.
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Old 10-04-22, 09:37 AM
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Campagnolo Brifter rebuild / reconfigure tutorial?

I have several Campagnolo brifters, and I need to convert some. (example 7 speed to 9 speed) simply for appearance.

I need to decide if I should swap (riveted?) levers or those little tiny cogs.

Is there a good tutorial or series of youtube videos or anything that can get me on the right track?

I have looked on Campagnolo website, to try to cross over part numbers, but this stuff (Avanti, Centaure, Record) seems too old.

Any help appreciated.
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Old 10-04-22, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Reynolds 531 View Post
I have several Campagnolo brifters, and I need to convert some. (example 7 speed to 9 speed) simply for appearance.
I have a set of excellent Chorus 9-speed ergopowers. Would you consider doing a straight swap with your 8-speed record levers? It would save you the time at least on one of them. PM me if interested.
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Old 10-04-22, 12:16 PM
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Useful info for today and the future:

This is a very good website. They sell parts, kits, and they also service Campagnolo brifters.

https://branfordbike.com/new-page
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Originally Posted by embankmentlb View Post
I built up this new to me Fuso frame a couple of weeks ago. It rides so nice! The 7700 with STI seem a bit out of place but it works great. At some point in the distance future maybe I will treat myself to some 7400 with down tube shifters.
That paintjob is SICK.
I even saved the pic!
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Old 10-07-22, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by panzerwagon View Post
I have a set of excellent Chorus 9-speed ergopowers. Would you consider doing a straight swap with your 8-speed record levers? It would save you the time at least on one of them. PM me if interested.
I think I'm in if he's not.
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Old 10-07-22, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Aerobots View Post
That paintjob is SICK.
I even saved the pic!
Standard awesome Fuso colorway, came in many colors and variations, one of the very best IMO.





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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
Standard awesome Fuso colorway, came in many colors and variations, one of the very best IMO.





I have been chasing a Fuso for years. The frame turned up local a month or so ago. I have only ridden it a hand full of times but I can say it lives up to expectations!
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Originally Posted by embankmentlb View Post
I have been chasing a Fuso for years. The frame turned up local a month or so ago. I have only ridden it a hand full of times but I can say it lives up to expectations!
Good call.

Dave is certainly one of the greats, very long and storied career. Strongly encourage you to go down the rabbit hole on it, fascinating stuff.

I was lucky enough to meet him on a bike shop tour when he came to Portland several years ago, he gave a great talk and spent a couple hours after one on one with us.
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
Good call.

Dave is certainly one of the greats, very long and storied career. Strongly encourage you to go down the rabbit hole on it, fascinating stuff.

I was lucky enough to meet him on a bike shop tour when he came to Portland several years ago, he gave a great talk and spent a couple hours after one on one with us.
Yes! Very familiar with his blog and Facebook page. Exactly how I got into this mess. Funny, back in the day I noticed his Fuso advertisements in various magazines but a bike like that was out of my grasp. Plus his Fuso frames were just one of many custom-ish options. Through the blog I understood what an interesting fella he is. Not at all just another frame builder. I imagine Dave is probably more respected now than ever.

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Old 10-07-22, 08:20 PM
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I've been dying to contribute to this thread for a fair while now. Below is my late 80's/early 90's Colnago Master Piu. Have had it since 2009. The "before" pic was taken in 2020. In spring 2021, I discovered that the seat-tube had developed a crack which started a long odyssey of getting it repaired, finding new components and wheelset for it. I finally managed to put it together this last September and the "now" pics are from today.




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This was my old triathlon/racing bike – a 1984 Miyata 710. I pulled it out of the garage rafters last spring and converted it to a 2x7 with R2000 Claris derailleurs and brakes, indexed DT shifters and an old 1055 105 crankset.

I put in about 1000 miles – it ran great, but I couldn’t leave well enough alone, and now it’s 2x11 running R7000 105. Here are the rest of my build notes:

Original frame, front fork and seat post.
Cold set frame to 130 mm.
Frame/forks powdercoated. Velocals match originals.
Grand Cru headset, Nitto stem and bars.
Shimano R7000 (105) brakes, mechs, shifters, and hubs
Velocity A23 rims, DT Swiss Champion spokes, Conty Grand Prix 25c
11-34 Cassette, 52/36 Crankset, BBR60 BB
Brooks C17 saddle
Shimano EH500 pedals

It rides smooth, fast and quiet.
I’ve made some pretty significant changes to this build in the last six months, so I thought I'd repost.

Big change was moving to 1x11. Build notes with changes bold.

Original frame, front fork.
Cold set frame to 130 mm.
Frame/forks powdercoated. Velocals match originals.
Shimano 6400 seat post.
Shimano 6500 headset, Nitto stem and bars.
Shimano R7000 (105) brakes, shifters, and hubs.
Velocity A23 rims, DT Swiss Champion spokes, Vittoria Corsa N.EXT 24c.
11-40 cassette, Shimano GRX-812 RD.
Shimano 1055 BB, Shimano 6400 crank, Wolf Tooth 42T chainring.

Brooks B17 saddle.
Shimano M-8120 pedals.

The crank is a double, the ring is in on the inner ring position and and I used a BB spindle meant for a triple. That pushed the chainline out a couple of mm, which seems perfect.

I’ve put about 1500 miles on this config.




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This is my 1983 Sequoia with a modern drivetrain.
It's mostly Ultegra 8000 with a Dura Ace 9000 crankset and Tektro nutted brakes. HED Belgium wheelset with DT350 rear hub and SP dynamo front. Bars, stem, and rack are all Nitto and the bag is a Swift Ozette.


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This is my 1983 Sequoia with a modern drivetrain.
It's mostly Ultegra 8000 with a Dura Ace 9000 crankset and Tektro nutted brakes. HED Belgium wheelset with DT350 rear hub and SP dynamo front. Bars, stem, and rack are all Nitto and the bag is a Swift Ozette.

Nice
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This is the thread where somebody will know the answer to this question:

Is there a "brifter" with brake cables coming out the top, for a retro look without downtube shifters?

Not the Shimano ones that poke inward, but something that creates that graceful arc we all love.
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This is the thread where somebody will know the answer to this question:

Is there a "brifter" with brake cables coming out the top, for a retro look without downtube shifters?

Not the Shimano ones that poke inward, but something that creates that graceful arc we all love.
Not a brifter, but I think the closest you'll come is getting those DiaCompe friction remakes of the SunTour Command shifters (I think they call them Wing Shifters). I was considering them for an upcoming build of an 80's sport tourer with a 10 speed and a triple (that is currently either going to get Kelly Take-Offs with 10 speed DA DT levers - practical and bombproof but not attractive or Campagnolo 10speed Ergos with gum hoods and a Jtek Shiftmate - prettier but more to go wrong as I want a wide range 10s cassette), but holy wow are they pricey for what they are. Still might do it as they look almost as bomb-proof/repairable as the Kellys but prettier.
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Yes, sort of. Gevenalle shifters come in multiple formats and the ones you probably want exit from the tops. They are essentially Tektro R200 style brake levers with attachment points for downtube or bar end shifters. Not exactly brifters but people who have them seem to like ‘em.
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