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Old 03-21-24, 10:28 AM
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Original.39 year old paint job still looking good in the sunshine today. 2 x 10 speed, 28c tyres and koolstop brake pads make it perform like a newer bike but retains the classic looks.
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Originally Posted by botty kayer
Original.39 year old paint job still looking good in the sunshine today. 2 x 10 speed, 28c tyres and koolstop brake pads make it perform like a newer bike but retains the classic looks.
Beautiful bike!
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1950 Bianchi

I guess this is kind of the opposite of the thread title, considering that the shifting is the only thing I left original.

Been away from here for a long time! got deep into MTB and modern gravel. I've been accumulating parts for this build for like seven years. Very hard to shift....




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Originally Posted by sergsinger
No way man. Right now I don't think about selling my old lovely Campa (except Dura-Ace 7810 pedals). Too many hours have been spent to make it shine again and work properly.
Glad to see a fellow campa group with 7810 pedals heathen!




Truth be told I was looking for a nos campaign chorus/record groupfor this custom build but didn't manage to find something so had to spring for the next beat thing, centaur 11s with a nos chorus 10s/5 arm crankset
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Those pedals look really classy with that group.
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Originally Posted by curiousabe
Glad to see a fellow campa group with 7810 pedals heathen!




Truth be told I was looking for a nos campaign chorus/record groupfor this custom build but didn't manage to find something so had to spring for the next beat thing, centaur 11s with a nos chorus 10s/5 arm crankset
Great look!

P.S. Next time center the tire logo under the tube nipple - this small detail caught my eye (maybe only mine).
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Originally Posted by himespau
Those pedals look really classy with that group.
I was specifically looking for Shimano pedals so that I could easily change bikes which use SPD-SL pedals.

Pinarello Dogma F8 is also ready for this season.
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Originally Posted by sergsinger
Great look!

P.S. Next time center the tire logo under the tube nipple - this small detail caught my eye (maybe only mine).
Not only yours, however valve hole does not allign with campagnolo sticker on rim and the two campagnolo stickers in rim do not allign either so it was impossible to allign text/logo on tire with text on rim and valve hole. I blame campa for this lol
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Originally Posted by kylarr
I love this bike! I'm pretty sure you get the award for the oldest bike in this long thread.
Nice furniture too.
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Originally Posted by kylarr
I guess this is kind of the opposite of the thread title, considering that the shifting is the only thing I left original.

Been away from here for a long time! got deep into MTB and modern gravel. I've been accumulating parts for this build for like seven years. Very hard to shift....
Interesting geometry! Super slack in the back and long chainstays, but the front looks racy. How's it ride?

Fantastically anachronistic
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Originally Posted by obrentharris
I love this bike! I'm pretty sure you get the award for the oldest bike in this long thread.
Nice furniture too.
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Haha! And thanks! That couch was a project that got out of hand, ended up taking me months.
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Originally Posted by Piff
Interesting geometry! Super slack in the back and long chainstays, but the front looks racy. How's it ride?

Fantastically anachronistic
I went on a 40 mile mixed surface social ride today, it was killer! Stable and fast, even in gravel. That pic was in the hardest gear, the chainstays shorten about an inch in the biggest cog.
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Second oldest?

Originally Posted by obrentharris
I love this bike! I'm pretty sure you get the award for the oldest bike in this long thread.
Nice furniture too.
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Yes, a great old Bianchi! I especially like that you are riding and shifting that old Campy shifting setup!

My 1952 Rudge, Aero Special, might be second or third.

Rudge Aero Special more or less as received.



I've shown this here before but it's a slow moving project. Changes/restorations/upgrades completed:

1. Original Dunlop Special Lightweight rims replaced with Super Champion Gentleman(s), spoked with Sapim skinny spokes. Front hub is the original Raleigh Industries with QR wingnuts. Rear hub is an alloy FM, but it needs some internal attention and at least a rinse-out (coming soon!).
2. Original chainset and BB spindle replaced with TA 5 vis with 49 T, TA314 spindle. The spindle bearing saddle width is the same as that of the original Raleigh Industries (A31?) and teh original cups were smooth, so no need to retap the BB!
3. Original ratrap-style pedals to Lyotard Berthet
4. Original "Sylvan Maes" steel bars replaced with GB rando bars.
5. Original Raleigh Industries stem replaced with GB alloy stem.
6. Original steel straight seat pillar replaced with Kalloy alloy seat pin, with Ideal 80, 92, or Brooks Swallow (have to see what is the best fit!)
7. Original Bleumels mudguards attached to mid-fork and mid-stay brackets with little wingnuts, but I only have the rear muduard. The original front one had a separate stinger attached in front of the fork but I don't have any of the front one. Looking for a used period set, or a recent set of Bluemels 42 mm.
8. Original gearing with the AW hub was 48/17. With a shorter-geared FM hub I want a taller sprocket set, but There aren't a lot of TA single f-vis chainrings around. I may go to an FM hub and scale an 18 or 19 rear sprocket. It also depends on chain links on-hand, since these frames have pretty long chainstays.
9. Added new tires, Pasela Tserve 27 x 1 ¼". Someday after the mudguards I'll find a front rainflap. I might put on a hub dyno if it fits - hot sure about that yet. I might have gone to 700c if more 40/32 rim combos had been available, and if the frame was not so narrow - it would be hard to squeeze anything igger than 33 mm into this frame - seems to have been designed for Lands' End to John o'Groats circuits - extreme randonneuring over the less-developed rural roads of 1950s United Kingdom. - Think Velocio but in UK.

But I'm not claiming I can do that ride! If I an pedal on it out to buy a bagel and coffee, I'll be happy!

Project is still going on, but I hope to ride it this summer and show it at the Wixom, MI show this August, if not the Auburn, IN show late Spring.

Then I'll see about paint and livery restoration.

The original ride was pretty efficient and very smooth and stable, with tires up to about 60 psi, and gearing was pretty nice with the AW hub. This argues in favor of the FW versus the FM - lower lows. I'm also not shy about gentle weight-weenying when the opportunity is apparent. The frame is fully straight-guage 531. Should have a lot oflex due to narrow stays and blades and rather long main tubes, but its pinned construction which I expect to be a bit more rigid than unpinned products.

We'll see, it's an adventure!
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I've posted it on just about every other thread I could, no reason to skip this one LOL. 1987 Raleigh Technium with Shimano RSX 3X7.



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Originally Posted by Road Fan
Interesting but are you planning to modernize with STI or Ergo shifters?
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My Centurion

All that's left of the original bike is the 50 year old frame, crank, handlebars and front derailleur. It's a very nice ride along the canals.

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My circa 1973 Peugeot UO-8 with a Racing Triple setup. I had to braze on the derailleur hanger because a bolt on hanger interfered with the chain. Fun bike.







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1980 Stevenson. It was originally a full Super Record build with a six speed freewheel in back. I replaced only the shifters and rear derailleur.




Hand-filed lugs. I should clean the headset, I guess!
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I had to braze on the derailleur hanger because a bolt on hanger interfered with the chain.
I like it.
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78 Frank Paino upgraded from 1st gen Superbe to 9s Ti Record and other fresh bits.
Upgrade or downgrade? Doesn't matter just felt like a change.
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78 Frank Paino upgraded from 1st gen Superbe to 9s Ti Record and other fresh bits.
Upgrade or downgrade? Doesn't matter just felt like a change.
very nice and classic bicycle
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Originally Posted by BMC_Kid
Interesting but are you planning to modernize with STI or Ergo shifters?
No, I plan to stay with a Sturmey Archer gear hub and the marching cable set with handlebar trigger shifter on the OEM drop bars.

The frame does not really lend itself to derailleurs. First, the rear OLD is 114 mm and the front is about 84. There are no provisions to to add anything direct mount to the rear. My goal is not to raise it fully to modern standards for a British cross-country , but to enjoy what this style of bike offered (mostly) in its day. I will never go so far as to try making a 130 mm 10 speed rear system work on this bike. But there are no suitable braze ones, and I don’t want to force the frame to be refinished.

So without a big budget for a full paint, decal, lining, alignment and braze on restoration, upgrade, and refurbishment I see this as to restore good operation, durability, and full ride ability. I also like this bike because it is only 1 year older than I am! When I get farther into the project I’ll look at wider range gearing, trying an FM or FG hub, for a wider gearing range.

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A point I should make, to respect the point of the thread, is that my initial idea was actually to go to a multi gear 2 or 3-by setup. But based on the points just discussed, it is too hard to do that on this project. Besides I have a grail Mercian
King of the Mountain build coming up soon. It has an already aligned and cold-sett status,very light thinner531 db, and with geometry similar to the Rudge (and to a Trek 720). The Rudge, while fully 531, is only claimed to be fully straight-gauge.
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1984 Nishiki Cresta

My '84 Nishiki gravel bike cold set to 130, 2x10 Ultegra shifters and FD, 9spd MTB RD, Tektro long reach brakes and FSA 46/30 crank. It's great on payment and a blast on desert trails
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Originally Posted by Alleytom
All that's left of the original bike is the 50 year old frame, crank, handlebars and front derailleur. It's a very nice ride along the canals.

That tire selection is perfect.
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