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Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos

Old 01-31-11, 12:37 PM
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@steppinthefunk: thanks a lot. I am actually done with steelframe madness. Got all I ever wanted. And I do not miss that I did not go for 1.Gen C Record ( I like it more in a aesthetic way.) But this 8spd stuff work so good, it was realy the most important invention for roadcycling.

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Old 01-31-11, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dundas
A question about front derailleurs when converting: my original front der. is a clamp-on Suntour Cyclone. I'm installing a 105 5600 group, but the new front der. is a braze on. The frame has no tab, and I like the look of the Cyclone. Will it be compatible with the new shifters and compact crank (50-34 from 52-42), or will I have to find a clamp adaptor?
I appreciate your advice.
Wow. This is amazing stuff. I was just about to ask about this kind of thing. Kinda gives a guy ideas. . BAAAD ideas.
The FD may move the chain, but it will likey rub, as the geometry was a little different, at least for Shimano of the era.
However, Suntour may be different, as I ran a Suntour GPX FD with 9-sp Sora STI's just fine.

To be dead-on, you'd need a clamp adapter and simply run the braze-on FD.
If you want to run the Suntour, I don't see what you have to lose by simply trying.
If it rubs, and you still like it, set it to rub where you should be shifting, anyway.
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Old 01-31-11, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tugrul
I rather like it as well. The frame has no white elements for white housing to key off of.

Shame about the paint.
I almost prefer it, this way I can ride the snot out of it without worrying about it's collectibility.

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If you do white housing, black tape is a must.

I can't tell if your Colnago is one of the ones with the aggressive geometry, but I would like to hear some details your perception of it's handling.
Agreed. After winter.

Well I can't compare handling to my other road bikes since I haven't ridden them in a few weeks. It seems willing to do more than I am on these sandy roads. Not sluggish or anything. I guess I'm not as finely tuned into handling as I'd like to be, maybe because I haven't ridden a badly handling bike!
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Old 01-31-11, 10:03 PM
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I look forward to reading more about it as you put on some miles. Chances are, yours isn't too aggressive. My 'Nago has track bike-like angles, and feels like it. I'm glad you are warming up to the 'character' of the paint job. I love the functional beauty of that build.
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No dice, why won't you let me make your bike my desktop background!
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Old 02-01-11, 02:32 AM
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Hi,
yeah you can download any pic from flickr as you like...


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i have never run into another Bohren & der Club of Gore fan...until now. holy crap they blow me away....
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Old 02-01-11, 06:38 PM
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Yeah! Ergos and Bohren is just great! The first stuff is realy nice! Saw them live to.
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Old 02-02-11, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
The FD may move the chain, but it will likey rub, as the geometry was a little different, at least for Shimano of the era.
However, Suntour may be different, as I ran a Suntour GPX FD with 9-sp Sora STI's just fine.

To be dead-on, you'd need a clamp adapter and simply run the braze-on FD.
If you want to run the Suntour, I don't see what you have to lose by simply trying.
If it rubs, and you still like it, set it to rub where you should be shifting, anyway.
I found a clamp adaptor. Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by no*dice
Hi,
yeah you can download any pic from flickr as you like...


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Old 02-02-11, 05:54 PM
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My '87 Prologue setup with 9 speed components. Just finished wrapping the bars but still need to finish a few adjustments (hence the brake quick releases). I still want to replace the concor light with a gray/black arione and I need to find a silver stem, but it's pretty much ready to go. The current build is as follows:

Mavic Cosmos wheelset
Ultegra crankset
Dura Ace FD
Dura Ace RD
Ultegra brakes
R600 shifters
Thomson seatpost
Ritchey stem
Ritchey bars

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Old 02-02-11, 06:33 PM
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the arione and a good silver quill stem will make it perfect. there was a few nice quill stems on ebay last i looked.
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Old 02-02-11, 06:50 PM
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I like the subtle butted fade jobs from the late 80s Schwinns.
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Very nice. I have a stem you may like, appears the same size.
Wish I had an Arione, I like the Concors Light.
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Old 02-02-11, 07:02 PM
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Here is my trek 720 set up for cyclocross.

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Old 02-02-11, 07:06 PM
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Nice looking Prologue!

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i like it
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Old 02-02-11, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
the arione and a good silver quill stem will make it perfect. there was a few nice quill stems on ebay last i looked.
I'm actually planning on staying with the threadless stem on this one, and have been keeping an eye out for a silver Thomson in the right size and for the right price to match the seatpost. Same for the arione.

Originally Posted by tugrul
I like the subtle butted fade jobs from the late 80s Schwinns.
Me too. I do kinda wish this was the red/white instead...and a cm or 2 bigger.

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Very nice. I have a stem you may like, appears the same size.
Wish I had an Arione, I like the Concors Light.
Threadless? I originally switched from an arione to a concor because I thought the arione was causing problems over about 120 miles. Turns out that changing the saddle wasn't the solution. I still like the concor, and have ridden 600k+ on one, but I'm leaning toward the arione on this bike.

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Nice looking Prologue!

Jake
Thanks! My favorite bars are Ritchey Pros with a 26.0 (or 25.8?) clamp in a 44, and they only came in black. I've considered polishing up a set of them the way you did on your Merckx. I'm hoarding those bars, so if anyone has 'em laying around...
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Old 02-03-11, 04:27 PM
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Man I'm bumming. After tweaking my fit on the trainer for a while I'm realizing that 55cm tt is just too big for the way I like to ride with modern levers. That and I definitely blew my school year budget on this project, not too good. I could use this money for race wheels. Regret.
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Originally Posted by brockd15
My '87 Prologue setup with 9 speed components. Just finished wrapping the bars but still need to finish a few adjustments (hence the brake quick releases). I still want to replace the concor light with a gray/black arione and I need to find a silver stem, but it's pretty much ready to go.
If you're still looking for a arione I think I have a black/grey one in my box somewhere that I bought off ebay when I was doing a saddle trial program, but never tried because I was so happy with the way my selle san marco regal fit my butt, so I could probably let that go. Not sure you'd want it though as the words flex wing are a bit worn off one side if memory serves and your bike is so pristine. If you want, I'll see if it's still in there.
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Originally Posted by stien
Man I'm bumming. After tweaking my fit on the trainer for a while I'm realizing that 55cm tt is just too big for the way I like to ride with modern levers. That and I definitely blew my school year budget on this project, not too good. I could use this money for race wheels. Regret.
I read a funny story one time years ago when the fit kit came out. Guys in teams would get all fitted by it and then when it was done, they still tweaked the bike to the way they wanted it. Totally screwed up the science of all of it. I have all my quirks as well ...I like the bikes/stems/crank to fit a certain way, not a way that the innernet tells me to.
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Originally Posted by himespau
If you're still looking for a arione I think I have a black/grey one in my box somewhere that I bought off ebay when I was doing a saddle trial program, but never tried because I was so happy with the way my selle san marco regal fit my butt, so I could probably let that go. Not sure you'd want it though as the words flex wing are a bit worn off one side if memory serves and your bike is so pristine. If you want, I'll see if it's still in there.
Yeah, I'd be interested...and I'm not afraid of a little wear.
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Here is our Bob Jackson. Gave it a repaint and the newer componentry a few months ago.
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Originally Posted by Dean V
Here is our Bob Jackson. Gave it a repaint and the newer componentry a few months ago.
Wow. Quite the stunner.
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Originally Posted by Dean V
Here is our Bob Jackson. Gave it a repaint and the newer componentry a few months ago.
Incredible. I'm thinking "intimate," too.
Hands down, the prettiest tandem I've seen. I'll bet it's fast.
I dig the old-school Looks.

I did a metric century last year, and was passed by a full-kit group.
They were running a fast pace line and really doing it well.
As I was watching them, a Cannondale tandem came by, WFO, called out,
and simply went right by them, and was out of sight not long after.

I pulled into the 20m stop just as the bike was leaving.
Never saw the bike again.
I think they were packed up and home before I got done.
I can't imagine how fast they'd be on the Bob Jackson.
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